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Old January 3rd, 2015, 10:10   #1
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Default Anyone driven a BMW X3 xdrive28d?

I have been researching the X3 diesel for my wife's next car. Over on the Bimmerfest forums there are lots of posts saying the car is "unbearably slow" or "good power around town but runs out of power on the highway". At 180/280 for hp/lb-ft its not a hugely powerful engine. The 4 cylinder MB unit which puts out 200/369 sounds better but is the BMW really slow?
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 10:19   #2
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For the weight of that car, it does sound like it. But, will she really notice or care? Schedule a long test drive so she can get on the freeway or highway and try it out.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 21:57   #3
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How is the fit in the X3 compared to a 328? I recently had a 2015 328xi gasser as a loaner car while my 535d had some work done at 40k miles. I found the 328 to be too tight for me and I absolutely could NOT get comfortable at all. Among other things the door pocket was digging into my left leg and the center console was digging into my right leg. I found I fit much better into a Mk4 Golf or Jetta. I ended up parking the 3-series loaner car at home and driving my X5 Xdrive35d to work that day. I was glad to get back into my 5-series later that day.

Speaking of the X3 and X5, have you checked out an X5 Xdrive35d? My 2012 X5 Xdrive35d was a CPO deal with 52k miles on it. The original owner traded it in soon after the original factory warranty expired....basically throwing away a perfectly good car.

You might want to look into an X5 if you find the X3 to be too small. As for power, the X5 Xdrive35d has plenty since it uses the same engine used in the 335d (M57 engine, 265hp/425lb-ft). If a new X5 Xdrive35d is out of your price range, maybe consider a CPO deal like I did.

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Old January 5th, 2015, 05:53   #4
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we have a new body 328xi in the family. The fuel economy is very impressive, for a gasser. Suspension and steering are lovely, but the non-sport pack seats aren't great, and i don't find it very big inside.

I drove a 328d and while the power was impressive, it still wasn't all that quick and suffered from the same issues as the 328xi

The x3 moves fine with the little diesel. I just think that it's way too much money for the car..
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Old January 6th, 2015, 12:23   #5
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I have driven X3 2.8ix several times as loaners, just one brief drive in X3 2.8d. The gasser has more than adequate power with just driver aboard, but fuel economy takes a hit compared to 328i, and with a full load I'm not sure it would feel so sprightly. The X3 2.8d was noticeably sluggish compared to my 328xd, could really feel the weight and aero drag, but it wasn't terrible with just two of us aboard and no cargo.

Like yatzee, I'm not impressed with the 328xd seats and seating position. By comparison the X3s had a better seat/pedals/wheel relationship, though the base seats were still rather hard and flat, the seats themselves not superior to the sedan.

My X3 objections are of course the penalty of run-flats, and the value given the high costs to buy and maintain out of warranty. I think the Audi Q5 is a superior vehicle and a better value, which is strange, because I did not not particularly like Q5 when it first came out. Audi has done well refining it and building it, people we know who own them love them and have had no problems.

The M-B GLK diesel is alright, but cramped inside, a little jiggly in the ride motions, and not at all cheap to run. Front seats are okay, but the rear seats are terrible and not much cargo room either.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 14:27   #6
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I did sit in the X3 and was surprised at the amount of head room that I had. I could also sit behind the driver's seat after adjusting it for me, something that I not possible in most cars/SUVs.

The 328xi sedan is a cramped little sardine can by comparison, with my legs pinched from both sides. I could never own one.
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The 328xi sedan is a cramped little sardine can by comparison, with my legs pinched from both sides. I could never own one.
That's 100% EXACTLY what I found when I had the 2015 328xi gasser loaner recently. My choices for a loaner car were the 328xi and an X3. I'll try the X3 next time.

I was glad to get back into my 535d at the end of the day after my 3-series ordeal.
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