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Old January 14th, 2020, 09:02   #16
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Power Service is very widely used, but I donít use it anymore. The concentration differs according to container size, which makes pouring the right amount confusing. More important, Iíve been stranded with gelled fuel after using the winter formula. So Iím done with PS.
Interesting - hadn't heard that about PS before. I've been running 8oz PS per fill-up the last couple years, because the dosing instructions (when they still put them on the bottle) said 4oz/15 gallons but to go double-dose if any Biodiesel present (at least one pump I frequent has a sticker noting up to B5).

I just restocked my winter additive, and wasn't able to get the large PS white jug, so grabbed a bottle of Howe's this time. Will be a couple fills before I get any of that in the tank (have 2 tanks' worth of PS left to use first). Be interesting to see if I notice any difference when I switch over to the new stuff...
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Old January 16th, 2020, 08:25   #17
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I totally gelled up with Howe’s during a particularly extreme cold snap a few years ago.
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Old January 17th, 2020, 11:27   #18
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Well, that's not encouraging. Fortunately it doesn't often get that cold in NJ.

Will have to look around to see where I'd have to go to find Schaffer's around here, hopefully my local Napa/Autozone/Advance carries it.
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Old January 17th, 2020, 12:16   #19
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Additives are always a gamble as you never really know if they are working or not.
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Old January 19th, 2020, 16:13   #20
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the only additive that makes a real difference for me is the Liqui Moly LM2002, and ive tried quite a few if not all
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Old January 19th, 2020, 16:54   #21
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Stop looking at the pump handles. It is plainly printed on the pumps. People need to get out of this habit.



+1 !!!!


READ THE PUMP - then you don't need to worry about the pump handle color.
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Old January 22nd, 2020, 21:55   #22
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READ THE PUMP - then you don't need to worry about the pump handle color.
No ****. I was referring to whole banks of diesel pumps being replaced by that gay ethanol fuel. Some switched to ethanol but.then back to diesel. But you are right always check the pumps and the skimmers , they are all over the place.

Additive wise I doubt the masses use any anyway and their cars are fine. If it makes you feel better spending money on the stuff go for it but we have b5-10 here already so no additives for me other than what comes out of the handle.

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Old January 23rd, 2020, 10:38   #23
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Many choices. Power Service is very widely used, but I don’t use it anymore. The concentration differs according to container size, which makes pouring the right amount confusing.
With all due respect, but that is a lot of B.S!

The factory pours the same liquid in all sizes of containers, from their smallest to the biggest !!!

It's how the user measures PS into the fuel tank which differs.

I pour PS into 8oz bottles I have to add to a fillup, which is a MEASURED amount!
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Old January 23rd, 2020, 12:07   #24
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I've used 3 kinds of fuel.

Kum&Go
Shell
Safeway

I know Kum&Go adds PS to the fuel already. They advertise 10% already mixed in. I get the best MPGs with Kum&Go diesel

I like Shell fuel, but they advertise their diesel is from a 3rd party. I usually lose 1-2 MPG on Shell Diesel so I only buy it when Kum&Go is not available.

I used to use Safeway Diesel in my 2011 Jetta. It seemed to like the crap and made 41-42 mpg. But my 2013 Sportwagen hates it. I usually drop 2-4 mpg on safeway diesel and therefore avoid it now.

I add 1 can of Seafoam about every 3 - 6 months. Seems to keep the injectors clean and engine running smooth. However, last time I changed the fuel filter at 80k (has 87k now) I used the Liqui Moly Diesel Purge. Did per their recommendation; emptied the filter canister, filled canister with filter and Liqui Moly, and put the rest in the tank. So I think im good for another 3k before another bottle of Seafoam.
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Does Seafoam have any amount of alcohol in it?
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Old January 24th, 2020, 13:00   #26
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Does Seafoam have any amount of alcohol in it?
Yes. 10-30%

https://seafoamsales.com/uploads/201...-v20191001.pdf
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With all due respect, but that is a lot of B.S!

The factory pours the same liquid in all sizes of containers, from their smallest to the biggest !!!

It's how the user measures PS into the fuel tank which differs.

I pour PS into 8oz bottles I have to add to a fillup, which is a MEASURED amount!
Actually, I know that I am correct. I wrote to Power Service a couple of years back and they said the concentrations were different. But they probably lied.

Apology accepted.
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Well, that's not encouraging. Fortunately it doesn't often get that cold in NJ.

Will have to look around to see where I'd have to go to find Schaffer's around here, hopefully my local Napa/Autozone/Advance carries it.
Or truck stops, I suppose.
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i run Howe's occasionally(recommended by my diesel mechanic buddy) and stick to exxon diesel efficient, shell, or bp/amoco. and make sure to change my fuel filter every 20k as scheduled
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Thanks. So just a thought for poster ToBiN to perhaps reconsider using Seafoam in a TDI as any amount of alcohol is not recommended (do your own search of course to verify).

I presume if you want a strong and safe way to clean/cleanse the fuel system of your TDI you may use this one very occasionally:

https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/diese...ystem-cleaner/

There are other similar products with good reputation also from LiquiMoly, Stanadyne, etc.
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