Cold start problem, 98 Jetta TDI

clyde

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1998 Jetta, 1959 DeSoto with leopard-skin seat covers
For the last two weeks the car would start only after much cranking. Motor is a stock 1Z, no mods, has about 135 k on it. Has performed well for the six years I've been driving it.

Worst problem was on Thursday the 14th—temp 25°F—crank, crank, crank, finally it started. CEL appeared, had not before.

I checked the glow plugs—all good, about 1.2 ohms each. GP harness OK, looks new condition. Glow plug fuse good; checked with meter—zero ohms.

Next I checked the CTS. Without removing the CTS, by using a single female pin on one terminal and a test probe on the other, the side that goes to the ECU (not the side for the eng temp gauge) is open circuit. Maybe that's it, I think.

Then I connected a supposedly good (checked with meter; resistance @ 45° F is about 1.8 k ohms) CTS to the car's CTS connector. No luck—still won't start.

Swapped the GP relay—I found one here. No change.

After charging the battery—because I'd been cranking quite a bit—when the temp reached 50° today (Sat. March 16) it started. For the first few seconds it would not respond normally to the accelerator, but that symptom disappeared quickly.

Wanted to drive it, get it hot so I could check VAG-COM to find what the CEL meant.

VAG-COM found one fault—00550, Start of injection regulation, 17-10 Control Difference Intermittent. I cleared the code, drove it seven miles, no more CEL. I had hoped VAG COM would reveal something about starting!

Hot starts fine, drives fine, power same as before. But I have zero confidence that it will start cold. Why should it? I haven't done anything, and I believe the CTS is dead. But it wouldn't start with a "good" CTS connected…

Next I will check operation of the GP relay, and check resistance of the closed relay contacts when the relay is powered.

What am I forgetting?
 
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ToddA1

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Sure you’re getting power at the GP harness? The wires in the harness are pretty thin, and after I saw how they connect to the GPs, it’s pretty loose.... it seems to work, though.

-Todd
 

clyde

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Thanks for the tips. I'll check that the wires from the GP relay actually have continuity TO the GP harness. Perhaps check the GP harness itself.

Maybe even hot wire the glow plugs and hit the starter!
 

clyde

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Update: Removed IC pipe for easier access to CTS; it checks fine today.

Does anyone have a picture showing the pin numbers on the big connector on the driver end of the cylinder head?

If it's in the Bentley, I have missed it. The two red wires may be for the glow plugs—but a picture would help.

Thanks!
 
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clyde

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Right, Todd, two red coming in from the relay, two black going to the GP harness. Same for 97 and 98 Jettas.

Thanks for the picture of that connector!
 

Steve Addy

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Right, Todd, two red coming in from the relay, two black going to the GP harness. Same for 97 and 98 Jettas.

Thanks for the picture of that connector!
Todd is correct, only one of the red wires is for the engine cylinder head GP's, other other is power for the coolant GP's at the side of the engine.

Steve
 
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