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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old February 13th, 2018, 23:15   #1021
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Edited Again, as I still do not want to clog up the momentum of this thread with unnecessarily detailed discussion of the minutiae.

I've PM'd lvrpl, but the "transfer to insurance company" language is from the 3.0 Long Form Notice, FAQ #32 (though, the details there are about the eligibility of the owner who owned the car when it was crashed. The Notice doesn't definitively say anything about the eligiblity of the car itself, or about the eligibility of the next owner of the salvaged or rebuilt car).

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Old February 14th, 2018, 00:35   #1022
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We are aware that some of Volkswagen’s chat agents may have been providing incorrect information to consumers with respect to Ankura’s role in the process, particularly as it relates to claims associated with vehicles with a branded title. We have made Volkswagen aware of these incorrect statements.

As we previously have reported, Volkswagen has placed certain of these claims on hold while it works with the Plaintiffs’ Steering Committee to address how they should be processed. We will provide updated information in our public report, which will be submitted to the court later this month.

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Old February 14th, 2018, 04:38   #1023
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My vehicle in question is a '14 JSW, a gen 2.0 vehicle. What is unambiguous is the definition of operability. The tests are, was the vehicle on the road on Sept 15, 2015; when did the accident occur; and does the engine run and the vehicle move under it's own power? (Yes all the way--at least a year ago it did start and run. I haven't started it for a while, so it may need some help to start)
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Old February 14th, 2018, 08:34   #1024
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The report by ankura are coming up soon, please do what you can so this issue is addressed. We are getting off topic focusing on one claim repeatedly.

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Here are all of the emails addresses again, if you haven't already please write a quick note advise you are delayed or no response, anything is better than nothing. If anyone else has other email address of others to include on this please let me know i will update this post. Numbers Come out after February 26th lets make sure our cases are documented.

If you haven't received a response from all on this list, email them again, they have to know we will not go away if they keep ignoring us with bs deadlines, time frames that pass.

Vw willfully accepted all brands of titles with accident history early last year, many made purchases because of this, the smoke show, delay game has gone on long enough. Lets all do our part in any way we possibly can.

Thanks for all who have, we have to do something, prior to all the emails the epa didn't have a vw email address dedicated to this issue now they do, i believe our efforts have been noticed. With all of the press about hard knox maybe this will also get attention make vw enforce the settlement as they were earlier last year.

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Old February 14th, 2018, 09:38   #1025
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Im guessing like everyone else its a crap shoot who you get in chat and that is why some are getting mid april as i just got or nothing just a further review from other agents.

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If your vehicle has a branded title and you have not yet received an eligibility decision, your claim is undergoing additional review because of your vehicle’s branded title. Volkswagen and the Claims Supervisor are reviewing your claim and will issue a decision regarding your eligibility. Volkswagen is currently processing claims for branded title vehicles and anticipates that it will complete its review of branded title vehicle claims by approximately mid-April 2018.

btw my car has a clear title but car was in an accident prior to my purchase.

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Old February 15th, 2018, 09:07   #1026
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My vehicle in question is a '14 JSW, a gen 2.0 vehicle. What is unambiguous is the definition of operability. The tests are, was the vehicle on the road on Sept 15, 2015; when did the accident occur; and does the engine run and the vehicle move under it's own power? (Yes all the way--at least a year ago it did start and run. I haven't started it for a while, so it may need some help to start)
This is where I am at, except that I drive the car everyday and the miles continue to pile up. My claim meets all of the requirements for buyback (easily documented). I bought the repaired car from a dealer. My claim has been sitting at step 15 with all documents approved for several months. There is nothing questionable, yet my claim is held up. If we ever get to an offer stage, is my offer going to be based on the mileage when I submitted the claim, or the present mileage months after being unduly help up when the offer is finally made?
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Old February 15th, 2018, 09:09   #1027
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Don't worry about the offer letter amount, payback will be adjusted according to the mileage on the car at the time of turning. That's how it is for everyone so regardless of this latest hassle you'd be getting the same amount either way unless you stop driving it.
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Old February 15th, 2018, 12:34   #1028
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Don't worry about the offer letter amount, payback will be adjusted according to the mileage on the car at the time of turning. That's how it is for everyone so regardless of this latest hassle you'd be getting the same amount either way unless you stop driving it.
That's kind of the point. If the claim was handled promptly eight months ago, I could have turned the car in with 10,000 less miles for a higher payback. The car is a daily driver, I can't afford to park it.

I don't doubt that there are some legitimate issues, but for the most part, IMO this is just a big stall tactic by VW to save some cash. There is no reason to blanket hold all non-clean title claims.
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Old February 15th, 2018, 13:27   #1029
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They way the buyback formula works, you get a bit over 1,000 miles a month for free, so you have not lost anything. If people have cars parked , they are going up in value as time marches on. Approximately every 5 months a parked car back calculates to change to a lower mileage band in the NADA guide and increases in value. A vehicle worth $25,000 will change around $500 when it hits a new band. A vehicle worth $12,000 changes around $150.
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Old February 15th, 2018, 17:34   #1030
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That's kind of the point. If the claim was handled promptly eight months ago, I could have turned the car in with 10,000 less miles for a higher payback. The car is a daily driver, I can't afford to park it.

I don't doubt that there are some legitimate issues, but for the most part, IMO this is just a big stall tactic by VW to save some cash. There is no reason to blanket hold all non-clean title claims.
Your value upon return is going down, but there is a value to driving it up and down the road as well.
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Old February 16th, 2018, 05:18   #1031
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We are still waiting for the CRC to issue its decision on the branded titles.

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Old February 16th, 2018, 05:33   #1032
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I spoke to Phong at Leif last night and still no update on salvage issue. He said he hopes the CRC will make a decision soon. Of course Leif has been saying this since April of 2017.

It is unconscionable that they (court / vw) keep stalling. I cannot tell if the stalling is by design or incompetence. It is sad the judge does not force a decision. My guess is the judge has been kept in the dark about salvage titles and how many there are out there. Leif has not been helpful (to say the least) on moving this issue along.

I think the judge and public relations are the key. We need to shame VW into buying these salvage cars back.

Any other thoughts?
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Old February 16th, 2018, 09:02   #1033
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I spoke to Phong at Leif last night and still no update on salvage issue. He said he hopes the CRC will make a decision soon. Of course Leif has been saying this since April of 2017.
It is unconscionable that they (court / vw) keep stalling. I cannot tell if the stalling is by design or incompetence. It is sad the judge does not force a decision. My guess is the judge has been kept in the dark about salvage titles and how many there are out there. Leif has not been helpful (to say the least) on moving this issue along.
I think the judge and public relations are the key. We need to shame VW into buying these salvage cars back.
Any other thoughts?
CCRG law filed suit because of this stall,but VW has 60 days to respond,which is coming up soon.
I think the VW is stalling,so all cars that are sold at salvage sale now don't bring much,so they are bought by salvage yard and parted out-therefore they will not be turned it.If VW can stall salvage title until close to end of the deadline,then it would be too late to register any of those,so VW doesn't have to pay.
In my opinion it's stupid,because the extra money they will have to pay on cars,like mine,that have been sitting over a year now and gaining about $100 a month,because they are not driven and mileage adjustment at the turn it,will be more then what will they save by this.
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Old February 16th, 2018, 21:30   #1034
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Just checked the Judges Callender they have something scheduled for March 21, Wednesday, Mar 21 2018
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It is unconscionable that they (court / vw) keep stalling. I cannot tell if the stalling is by design or incompetence.
The speed from discovery to payouts was unprecedented. It's difficult to express how surprising the speed of the settlement process was to people who work in the legal system to people who are affected by the settlement. What you are experiencing now is typical of these kinds of cases...the anomalous portion of this whole catastrophe is that people have already turned their cars in and walked away with a check rather than the other way around.

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In my opinion it's stupid,because the extra money they will have to pay on cars,like mine,that have been sitting over a year now and gaining about $100 a month,because they are not driven and mileage adjustment at the turn it,will be more then what will they save by this.
The more likely scenario is that this is just the typical process of these kinds of large-scale settlements rather than deliberate stonewalling. There isn't any incentive to do so and the only reasonable argument that they might be stalling doesn't even make sense as you point out.
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