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Old October 25th, 2006, 14:19   #31
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Besides Colorado there is another group that is working on finishing some stuff off. As stated above. If you want it in your backyard, follow the instructions and get your plans and proposal together. Then get it to me by the deadline.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 20:02   #32
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Since you asked, I respectfully answer with a clear: NO.
The 2005 fest was in Lake Mills WI (pop. ~4800) which is VERY rural, quite Mayberry-ish. Yet with all the lack of things to incorporate the fest was a success. People come for the company and cars. The Philly fest was the rain fest. You couldn't do anything Friday or Saturday but hang out at the hotel. Did that stop anyone from having a great time, HELL NO! People came for the company and cars.

Most people will never leave the hotel or the central location. Where the cars are is where the action is and where the people are hanging out. If the area has a nice restaurant & bar, the guys are happy. A local mom & pop place will do. The wives and kids only need a park with a playground. People will find their own entertainment. Big cities are no guarantee of a successful fest. Just my opinion.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 20:35   #33
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The 2005 fest was in Lake Mills WI (pop. ~4800) which is VERY rural, quite Mayberry-ish. Yet with all the lack of things to incorporate the fest was a success. People come for the company and cars. The Philly fest was the rain fest. You couldn't do anything Friday or Saturday but hang out at the hotel. Did that stop anyone from having a great time, HELL NO! People came for the company and cars.

Most people will never leave the hotel or the central location. Where the cars are is where the action is and where the people are hanging out. If the area has a nice restaurant & bar, the guys are happy. A local mom & pop place will do. The wives and kids only need a park with a playground. People will find their own entertainment. Big cities are no guarantee of a successful fest. Just my opinion.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 21:09   #34
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If he gets no proposal, I assume that means there will be no fest..........
I understand the FL bid went bust,so that's out......
I would be bummed also, I have been to all of them but 1!but the fest is a large undertaking and it takes a dedicated group of committed people to pull it off !! go to any of the previous organizers and ask....They will tell you
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What is the factual basis for your understanding that the "FL bid went bust" ?? I don't understand that at all. It's my impression, from reading the various posting relating to the bid process for the 07 Fest, that the Florida gentleman working on a Florida proposal is doing quite well, and the proposal is well coordinated.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 21:50   #35
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The 2005 fest was in Lake Mills WI (pop. ~4800) which is VERY rural, quite Mayberry-ish. Yet with all the lack of things to incorporate the fest was a success. People come for the company and cars. The Philly fest was the rain fest. You couldn't do anything Friday or Saturday but hang out at the hotel. Did that stop anyone from having a great time, HELL NO! People came for the company and cars.

Most people will never leave the hotel or the central location. Where the cars are is where the action is and where the people are hanging out. If the area has a nice restaurant & bar, the guys are happy. A local mom & pop place will do. The wives and kids only need a park with a playground. People will find their own entertainment. Big cities are no guarantee of a successful fest. Just my opinion.
I respect your opinion, and I do agree that a big city is not a guarantee to anything. However, some of the attendees may choose to do something other than to stay in the hotel 24hrs a day for 3-4 consecutive days without exploring the area. I can't honesty say that the King of Prussia / Philadelphia was a "rain fest" or a waste. There was plenty to do and see around the hotel area, the historical surroundings, and in the city. And who could drive to Philly and not have a cheesesteak sandwich at Jim's Steaks or Pat's Steaks?

Every area has something unique to offer, but the location should have significant choices to offer the attendees in order for them to "find their own entertainment" to supplement Fest activities. Who in their right mind would like the choices to be limited to either going in the woods to hunt for bears or stay in the campground and get bitten by a rattlesnake. ???

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Old October 26th, 2006, 00:23   #36
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Maybe somewhere in the middle, like Kansas or Missouri & Chicago itz, OK!

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Old October 26th, 2006, 08:14   #37
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I respect your opinion, and I do agree that a big city is not a guarantee to anything. However, some of the attendees may choose to do something other than to stay in the hotel 24hrs a day for 3-4 consecutive days without exploring the area. I can't honesty say that the King of Prussia / Philadelphia was a "rain fest" or a waste. There was plenty to do and see around the hotel area, the historical surroundings, and in the city. And who could drive to Philly and not have a cheesesteak sandwich at Jim's Steaks or Pat's Steaks?

Every area has something unique to offer, but the location should have significant choices to offer the attendees in order for them to "find their own entertainment" to supplement Fest activities. Who in their right mind would like the choices to be limited to either going in the woods to hunt for bears or stay in the campground and get bitten by a rattlesnake. ???
I'm of the mindset that you have expectations that no organizer is ever going to meet.

You state that you are undecided if the Philly fest was a success or not. That is a very telling statement. The simple truth is that it was an overwhelming success! The organizers pulled it off. It did happen as it was planned to. There was record attendance. The auction raised a respectable amount of money. Vendors sold products & services. Cars were worked on. Sunday it cleared up and the "Show & Shine" was held along with the rally. The majority of attendees refused to let the rain dampen their spirits, dismissed the adversity, moved on and had fun.

Monday Fred, TDIinRI, another guy ( I forgot your name, sorry), and I did venture into Philly and went to the Mutter Museum and hit Jim's for the real-deal Philly Cheese Steak sandwich. It was great but getting downtown and parking was not easy to negotiate even on a holiday.

I've been to 5 out of 7 fests now and I have never been disappointed. I kept my expectations simple and that was the key. Every fest has had something go wrong despite the best intentions of the organizers.

If you are undecided that the Philly fest is a waste or not, then you would have hated the Lake Mills fest. Lake Mills was a hard-core wrenching fest. You would have had to invent your own entertainment pretty much all of the time.

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Who in their right mind would like the choices to be limited to either going in the woods to hunt for bears or stay in the campground and get bitten by a rattlesnake. ???
With this statement I don't know what you are saying except showing your contempt for someone's fest idea with unwarranted sarcasm. You still have your trump card to play. Submit your proposal for a FL fest. This is your baby. Make it the biggest most successful fest ever! Show all those other fest organizer slackers that their efforts were lame, sub-par, inferior, etc. Raise the bar! This is your moment. Carpe diem!
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Old October 26th, 2006, 09:57   #38
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You state that you are undecided if the Philly fest was a success or not.
Hey Brian: I'm sure I did not say that. The posting speaks for itself. On the contrary, I think the King / Philly was very much a success. And, in addition to the Fest activities, there were many other local attractions.

ANYWAY, I've used up my penny on this issue, and I'm a nickle over.
Bottom line is that Anywhere, USA or Canada will have their own particular merits, positives and negatives.

ps. If you're a Florida GATOR, you don't have to worry about being gator bait.

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Old October 26th, 2006, 16:12   #39
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To tell the truth, I enjoyed Lake Mills best of the three fests I have attended. Nice simple motel with great rates and free internet. Friendly local folks (except for the tax collector scam). Wrenching as needed. I worked my butt off, and enjoyed every minute of it!

Nice small town restaurants. A TDI caravan to the local tasty freeze for ice cream. What could be more fun? Of course, I'm a small town boy.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 16:39   #41
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Well, I for one would be interested in some place in or around California; OR would be wonderful. Unfortunately for me, I can't/don't always keep up with the process of how the locations are choosen. (I have too many processes at work to think about)
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Old October 29th, 2006, 08:42   #42
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NO MATTER WHAT... let's have a FEST !

I still think that the IDEA of having a GTG in CENTRAL USA would be the best !

Think of the larger number of attendee's because of location
Imagine getting to a small town, "taking over" and being asked to come BACK the next year!, that would be SUPER.

thoughts...
1. Centrally located
2. Small town/city
3. Lower fuel cost pumps
4. Maybe(?) change the weekend date? for one that's not so busy?

DEFINITELY, LET'S MAKE IT A GTG
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Old October 29th, 2006, 08:52   #43
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Any interest in having a biodiesel homebrewing class at TDIFest 07? I'll bet we could get Mark Alovert (www.girlmark.com) to do one at the Fest. If any of you are from the SE and would be interested in hosting TDIFest 07 in Atlanta, there's a hot little biodiesel community here (www.vegenergy.com), too.
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I still think that the IDEA of having a GTG in CENTRAL USA would be the best ! ...DEFINITELY, LET'S MAKE IT A GTG
How about Kansas City, MO ???
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Old October 29th, 2006, 19:01   #45
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I was in KC, MO recently myself and I thought it would be a great place for a Fest! I am out of the volunteering biz, but I'll have plenty of encouragement for the organizers--wherever it may be!
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