It all depends on the dyno they're on. Some are reporting numbers that high, realistically its a +20hp gain for the standard Stage 3 tune, so if they saw 185whp on Stage 2, they're likely to see 205whp on that specific dyno, same day, same corrections, etc.
You also have to look at area under the curve.
Bingo. High peak numbers with stock turbos often show curves that include a big torque spike, and an engine that tails off on HP approaching 4K. The larger turbo will show more area under the curve and more consistent power delivery throughout the rev range.
most people don't realize this... is a car more fun to drive with 20~30 hp/tq out on both ends of the curve or with just that extra 5 hp at the peak... I'd take 20~30 hp/tq under the peak any day. Plus if the curve is widened on both ends even better.
Excellent work as always.For representation only, not for comparing numbers because they are 2 completely different vehicles in different states. It only accurately shows how much wider the powerband is. I never dynoed my car on Stage 2.
He thought is was a pricey upgrade, I have done it and it is, just letting people know real world expectations...Some people I have talked to about this think it's a $300 used turbo when it can run into the thousands, am I right or wrong???
I think this is the most gain with this turbo rather than peak numbers. It's a nice smooth flexible power with this windmill. It's quite impressive top end speed/power, this is where this turbo shines. Also i'm averaging 4-5 ish mpg better.
This is my impression as well after driving jfettig's JSW. While it has a lot of torque it isn't nearly as much of a neck snapper as say a heavily modded alh which is fine since it will likely mean transmission components might survive. What really impressed me was how smooth the power delivery is. It is deceivingly fast.
Now somebody just needs to figure out how to get around the EGT limiter so more fun can be had for longer. Are these wheel or adjusted crank numbers? If they're wheel numbers they don't jive with your driving impressions. My ALH with 315 torque at the wheels was more than "quick." 1st gear was useless, you had to be careful to avoid wheelspin in 2nd, and it was pretty easy to break the tires loose in 3rd. And the car would pull hard and quickly to 125 MPH and beyond. Maybe we need some 1/4 mile comparisons to verify the dyno numbers.
That is a good way to describe it, it is quieter in general than my ALH was - in my 03 Wagon you really knew / felt when the turbo came alive. A few times I catch myself rolling into 2-4th and be surprised when you look down and see you are doing 70+. The 09 has a super smooth power delivery, really fun to drive in the "normal" RPM band around town. It may only be a 20HP peak gain for the turbo, but the usable torque available across the whole band is so noticeable.
Same one I used, good choice, vibration will go away with break in miles, it is a little softer that the one ECS sells...
Did you also do the BFI S-I motor mount? I had the ECS dog bone. It was extremely uncomfortable!
No, but I did do a Diesel Geek shifter and a BFI heavy shift knob, it completely transforms the car if you have a manual...I left all other mounts oem...
