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Fuels & Lubricants Discussion all about Fuels & Lubricants. synthetic oil, conventional oil, brands, change intervals, diesel grades, gelling and such debated items like that. Non TDI related postings will be moved or removed. This forum is NOT for the discussion of biodiesel and other alternative fuels.

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Old May 20th, 2011, 14:37   #31
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Gee whiz, I was under the mistaken impression that prices were simply the result of rampant greed by the oil companies. I'm always impressed by how EVERY SINGLE oil supply 'crisis' results in new record profits for the oil companies. It a nice business when interruptions and cost increases in your supply, even imaginary ones, actually increase your profit rather than decrease it.

I'm not saying it's fair but when they think they might lose a buck, they'll jack up the prices to stop it from happening. There's never a fear of making a buck, just losing one.

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Most refineries (atleast the ones in Western Canada) have their turnaround in spring (April-May) so they are indeed shut down. Also, two provinces worth of farmers @ <1% seeded does create a surplus. Maybe not globally, but definately locally.

I know of a local refinery that was certain they would run out of RUG but not Diesel before they had it back up and running. Shut down is almost over and I haven't heard what the levels are.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 05:33   #32
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Still a 50c difference in southern cal.
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Old October 22nd, 2018, 16:25   #33
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Here in the Edmonton Area the Gas Price is 1.079. DIESEL is between 1.20 and 1.29
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Old October 23rd, 2018, 08:18   #34
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gas was $2.58 yesterday and Diesel $3.34 here
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Old October 23rd, 2018, 09:55   #35
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Diesel is now running about .20 above premium around here.
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Old October 23rd, 2018, 17:22   #36
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Regular unleaded gas locally is $2.86. Diesel is $3.299.
News said this morning diesel prices next year are expected to climb, even spike up. Passenger/Cruise and freight ships will be switching from heavy fuels over to diesel fuel to meet some new emissions standards. Airline prices also to go up accordingly.
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Old November 2nd, 2018, 06:21   #37
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2.39 for RUg here in va, Diesel 3.00


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Old November 2nd, 2018, 06:39   #38
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At the Speedway, it's $2.55 R, $3.05 P and 3.29 D. At the Phillips 66, it's $2.64 R, $3.09 P and $3.57 D. I don't recall ever seeing a difference like this.
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Old November 5th, 2018, 18:31   #39
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I have been noticing the extremely large gap between 87 and premium gas as well. When I was younger (10 year ago), I noticed it was typically 10 cents apart - 1.80, 1.90, and 2.00, for example, 87, 91, and 93 respectively.

Now I notice there's a ~60 cent gap between 87 and 91, and ~20 between 91 and 93. Quite a large gap. Then diesel is somewhere around 91's price I suppose.
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Old November 6th, 2018, 14:34   #40
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73 cent gap here in SEPA
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Old November 6th, 2018, 18:20   #41
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This past weekend I was in Los Angeles and diesel was $.10-$.20 less than RUG in the stations I noticed. It was also expensive: at one station diesel was $4.19 and RUG was $4.29. That diesel price is about $1 more than here in MA, and RUG was close to $1.50 more than here. CARB Summer fuel is a factor.
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Old November 7th, 2018, 10:05   #42
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Might not be a factor. Summer fuel was supposed to switch in October, or at least the fuel we get from San Francisco.
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Old November 11th, 2018, 05:57   #43
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Over the last several months (going back to mid-summer), along I-75 in Kentucky, the spread in price between Diesel and RUG has widened. Right now, Pilot (FlyingJ) has self-serve Diesel at $3.35 and RUG at $2.32. Diesel can be found a bit cheaper away from the Interstate, but nothing under $2.99. RUG is upwards from the $2.32 everywhere else.

In recent years in this region (KY, TN, GA, etc.), Love, Pilot/FlyingJ have almost developed a monopoly forcing locals to follow them in price.

Long for the days when Diesel was 5 cents to 35 cents cheaper.... but, those days are gone!
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Old November 15th, 2018, 05:25   #44
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The winter heating season is in full force here in new england. The snow isn't here in depth yet, but the day's highs are no higher than mid 30s F.

Historically, diesel prices rise in winter due to demand for heating oil since it is the same cut as diesel. Gasoline prices drop because people aren't driving as much. Hence the reversal of relative price movement.

I expect to see prices moving in that direction (higher for diesel) more, as it has already started in that direction.

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Old November 17th, 2018, 17:40   #45
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Saw this yesterday in Madison, WI:

Thought it was a big price gap, but driving home I saw differences close to a dollar in Ohio and PA.
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