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Old March 2nd, 2008, 11:18   #1
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Default Post Your Dynos Here - 2

II that is - the first dedicated dyno thread got locked.

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Old March 2nd, 2008, 11:20   #2
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Default RocketChip RallyVW Project - RC6

Silverbullet - 169hp/298ftlbs, 5500rpms, 10mm, pp502, hybrid 1752, RC6e
PD150 intake and inlet pipe, R32 maf housing/box, thru exhaust, keystone pump mod. light smoke

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http://ascension.globat.com/~rocketc...=21&fullsize=1
http://ascension.globat.com/~rocketc...=29&fullsize=1

changed pp502's for R520's - 197hp/361ftlbs egt=1400 more smoke
http://ascension.globat.com/~rocketc...=47&fullsize=1

changed pp502's for R520's - 205hp/390ftlbs egt-1600 water meth added, tweaked tune, heavy smoke
http://ascension.globat.com/~rocketc...=48&fullsize=1

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xBGyTs86ts


TDIRacing - 224hp/270ftlbs

dyno:
http://ascension.globat.com/~rocketc...=20&fullsize=1

video:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LDGxmXprlA

SnowPerformance.net - water-methanol really cleans up things on the top end!
http://ascension.globat.com/~rocketc...=27&fullsize=1

One more - Nick's ride! ALH-RC4, pp520, 10mm, 1749vb
http://ascension.globat.com/~rocketc...=28&fullsize=1

(btw, these are RC6 baseline dynos - and require some more work, both hw and sw, more to come)

jsr's silver bullet -

R520's : http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...&postcount=158

tdimeister cam installed http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...&postcount=193
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 11:53   #3
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Silverbullet matches what I'm running right now almost exactly. Any intake/exhaust mods on it?

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Old March 2nd, 2008, 12:06   #4
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I like TDIracing's hp numbers but not the tq #'s he dosent have stock tq until 3300 rpm . How does it drive? looks like it would drive like my friends 1.8 . His dyno looks like that but has 250 hp . Isnt that the point in a deisel the low tq . Like your's tq peak in the lower rpm's .
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 12:22   #5
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hey TDIRacing if you drive down to the dyno day ill pay for your dyno so we have something to compare to. you know dyno #'s there dyno #'s here. What do ya say?
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 12:22   #6
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Those are great. Here's mine from last weekend, PP520s, not the 502s that are in there now.

Mods: RC6, 11mm pump, lift pump, R32 DSG airbox, snorkel, and MAF, PD150 intake and manifold, 2.5" turbo back exhaust, no CAT, larger SMIC.



The red line is from last fall's dyno day with RC4 and before correcting the air tables for the R32 MAF.

With the 502s I would expect numbers close to Jeff's even on the DSG's notoriously conservative dyno.

Oliver, I think you were lifting too early, especially in the race car run. My guy ran it to the fuel cutoff on one run but the dyno still read 5600. I want to see a true 6K!
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 12:39   #7
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hey TDIRacing if you drive down to the dyno day ill pay for your dyno so we have something to compare to. you know dyno #'s there dyno #'s here. What do ya say?
Compare to what ben?

I have nothing to prove. I got it all on video with losts of people watching. Further, I could care less what I put down on another dyno. This is the same dyno, same location that I have done all my other dynos. My gains are very well documented and have yet to see anyone else get close to these numbers. This was a test for a very specific purpose in racing. This is not to be compared to a street turbo.

My offer to you Ben is you drive here and use the dyno i used. I will pay for it as well. What do you say?
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 12:51   #8
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I was there for this and this is running STOCK airbox STOCK manifold. Yes the torque #s are low compared to others but phenomenal numbers in terms of HP. I am excited to see what happens with a different Intake manifold and maybe an awesome DP like mine
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I was there for this and this is running STOCK airbox STOCK manifold. Yes the torque #s are low compared to others but phenomenal numbers in terms of HP. I am excited to see what happens with a different Intake manifold and maybe an awesome DP like mine
Yes, stock intake and stock airbox was used. Yeah your DP is sweet, and your car looks better than mine as well.

But who was in whos mirror on our freeway run? LOL
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Compare to what ben?

I have nothing to prove. I got it all on video with losts of people watching. Further, I could care less what I put down on another dyno. This is the same dyno, same location that I have done all my other dynos. My gains are very well documented and have yet to see anyone else get close to these numbers. This was a test for a very specific purpose in racing. This is not to be compared to a street turbo.

My offer to you Ben is you drive here and use the dyno i used. I will pay for it as well. What do you say?
Funny, but when I posted my numbers, they were basically dismissed as false/inflated numbers, even though I was only comparing them to the results I had previously had on the same dyno.

I also had nothing to prove, nor was I comparing my car to anyone else's, either directly or indirectly, and yet everyone has some sort of negative comment on the validity of the dyno runs, the integrity of myself, the shop that did the upgrades, and even the dyno owner.

I'm getting a 3" turbo-back exhaust setup done, a PD in-tank fuel pump installed, and a software revision done in the next month or so and I plan on taking it to the same dyno for a comparison to the last 3 dyno sessions I've run the car on for the benefit of measuring the gains over the previous setups ... but I doubt I'll bother to post them here because, frankly, I'm tired of all the negativity that the majority of members here seem to be so eager to display in their posts these days. Kind of a shame, really.
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My gains are very well documented and have yet to see anyone else get close to these numbers.
Oh and by the way, even if you take into consideration a 17% correction factor on my last dyno numbers (265 hp and 360 tq) I would have 220 hp and 300 tq which is pretty close to your numbers ...
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I hope to get out your way Ed very soon. Would like to ride in your car if possible just for fun to compare.

Dave's got a new dyno at his shop and we wanted to get some people in to make some runs on it. Maybe you can make it out when I am there?
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We'll play that one by ear. If all goes well, I'm actually planning a little road trip to the TDI Fest in Ohio! So if I don't see you out here on the West Coast, maybe I'll catch you there.

And as for taking my car to dyno it at Dave's, I don't think it would really be prudent of me to take my car (built by JSP) to Dave as it would be akin to his intake manifold being sent to an intake dyno test being run by a competitor (I'm sure Dave can understand where I'm coming from on this!)
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It would be great to have a dyno session at TDIFest this year.
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Dyno graph below. Essentially it's a 90% pushed PD130 engine. Still looking for that extra 10% to say it's pushed to the max. High, peak power is produced by a combo of a good turbo, and a good cam. Video of this run is in my sig.

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