Jettamatic
Member
Proves once and for all TDI trumps those other fuel economic cars or at least is good enough to keep up.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=46nMnCt75qI
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=46nMnCt75qI
Wanted to share this video with you guys...
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dieseldorf
Top Post Dawg
Interesting. I like the comparo. Euro diesel automobiles ROCK...period 
OTOH, HTF do you get a TDI to make 47mpg in one test and 32 in the subsequent test. I don't buy that. They need new batteries for their calculator. My '00 Jetta had a lifetime of 44mpg +/- 3. I'd estimate our B4 wagon at 42mpg +/-5. Over 10's of thousands of miles, that's where they operated. Never outside that range.
Something about that SMART car scares me. Not sure what it is. I know they're "safe" and all, but they just don't look like the buggy you should be riding in when soccer mummy t-bones you with the Escalade
OTOH, HTF do you get a TDI to make 47mpg in one test and 32 in the subsequent test. I don't buy that. They need new batteries for their calculator. My '00 Jetta had a lifetime of 44mpg +/- 3. I'd estimate our B4 wagon at 42mpg +/-5. Over 10's of thousands of miles, that's where they operated. Never outside that range.
Something about that SMART car scares me. Not sure what it is. I know they're "safe" and all, but they just don't look like the buggy you should be riding in when soccer mummy t-bones you with the Escalade
McBrew
Top Post Dawg
Nice... did they include the Ford Focus just so they would have a car that came in last for all tests? Gotta love it.
borderguytdi519
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Good demo... Gotta send it to my "Buy American" Ford Focus pals. It shows the point that hybrids are better in start-and-stop city driving and TDI are better in high-speed highway driving. When I bought my 2006 Jetta TDI I factored in that my city/highway ratio is about 20/80 and I travel about 50,000 km/a. I looked at the VW Jetta TDI, Toyota Prius, Ford Focus, Honda Civic.
But ultimately, I liked the Jetta the best: best fit-and-finish, best drive characteristics, I could actually fit in it (unlike the Prius) and heated leather seats for those chilly Midwestern/Southwest Ontario mornings.
Sometimes a car is an appliance, sometimes it isn't.
But ultimately, I liked the Jetta the best: best fit-and-finish, best drive characteristics, I could actually fit in it (unlike the Prius) and heated leather seats for those chilly Midwestern/Southwest Ontario mornings.
Sometimes a car is an appliance, sometimes it isn't.
mrGutWrench
Top Post Dawg
__. If you think soccer moms are scary, you've never had to deal with a drunk Mexican.dieseldorf said:(snip) they just don't look like the buggy you should be riding in when soccer mummy t-bones you with the Escalade
dok
Veteran Member
If the TDI's 'Carbon Footprint' is similar to the Prius, why do them enviro-mentals complain so much about diesels?
JungleDeath
Veteran Member
Cool. Ready. Same test except...
let's try the new test loaded up with gear. Ya know, 2 more people in the car plus all their crap for a long weekend.
Then do the mountain test...and the 75 mph (85, really) test. And then the a/c on at 75 mph up the mountain test...
let's try the new test loaded up with gear. Ya know, 2 more people in the car plus all their crap for a long weekend.
Then do the mountain test...and the 75 mph (85, really) test. And then the a/c on at 75 mph up the mountain test...
dieseldorf
Top Post Dawg
Este es mi amigo: Sr. Don JuliomrGutWrench said:
MrPolak
Veteran Member
Jetta's in-town MPG sucks! My Beetle, in strict city driving, gets 40MPG with A/C on.
Mike_04GolfTDI
Top Post Dawg
- Joined
- Nov 19, 2003
- Location
- Richmond, BC, Canada
- TDI
- Mine: 2019 Golf R DSG, Wife's: 2015 Golf Comfortline TDI
I was very surprised with the results until I realized that the Smart was the American gas powered version. In Canada we get the diesel Smart, and I'm sure it would have won in every category.
I agree with you, 32mpg seems a little low unless they were red-lining it from red light to red light! But still not bad for a diesel ....dieseldorf said:Interesting. I like the comparo. Euro diesel automobiles ROCK...period
OTOH, HTF do you get a TDI to make 47mpg in one test and 32 in the subsequent test. I don't buy that.
compu_85
Gadget Guy
Maybee they forgot to vent Or one pump was very foamy, and the next was very not-foamy.
-Jason
Or one pump was very foamy, and the next was very not-foamy.-Jason
TornadoRed
Top Post Dawg
- Joined
- Aug 3, 2003
- Location
- West Des Moines (formerly St Paul)
- TDI
- 2003 Jetta TDI wagon, silver; 2003 Jetta TDI wagon, indigo blue; 2003 Golf GL 5-spd, red (PARTED); 2003 Golf GLS 5-spd, indigo blue (SOLD); 2003 Jetta TDI wagon, Candy White (SOLD)
The total distance traveled was only 676 miles -- so the Jetta would not have needed refueling.compu_85 said:Maybee they forgot to vent
1) Back roads to Vegas, 55-60 mph: 334 miles
2) in Vegas: 133 miles
3) back to SoCal at 75 mph: 209 miles.
czar
Veteran Member
Great video - and the comments support what is clear - rather have a Jetta than any of the other options - nicer ride, more room, and absolutely competitive when you look at MPG and greenhouse emissions as compared to the highest MPG achieving cars on the road. Hmmmm...a SMART or a Jetta?!?! Unless I needed to park it in NYC everyday, I'll take the Jetta hands-down.
Now, factor in home BD production, and who's the clear winner
Now, factor in home BD production, and who's the clear winner
8606
Veteran Member
Not true, the Focus has more headroom (almost 2 inches front and rear), over 2.5 inches more rear legroom, more trunk space and passenger space. I would certainly take a 2008 Focus over a the 2005 Jetta tested. A 2008 Focus over my 2006 Jetta? No. But nearly 1 inch headroom does sound appealing in that Focus. My seats are broken in, still a little uncomfortable tilting the head in the Jetta...but a Focus 1.8 TDCi. Just give me headroom (6'6")!!!czar said:
DPM
Top Post Dawg
No 1.8D any more. Now using 1.6 and 2.0 units, much better.
8606
Veteran Member
Not according to this:DPM said:
http://www.ford.co.uk/ie/focmca/co2_foc/co2_model_foc_diesel/-/-/-/-
DPM
Top Post Dawg
Ooh, that's a new one on me. They went from 1.8 TDDi to the early 1.8 TDCi, but I was pretty sure it was discontinued in favour of the HDI units.
Here's all the blurb:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratorq_engine
Here's all the blurb:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratorq_engine
MethylEster
Veteran Member
Was the Jetta an automatic or manual ?
Those fuel mileage numbers are well below what I get with my 5 speed !!
Those fuel mileage numbers are well below what I get with my 5 speed !!
sloguydoin75
Veteran Member
The video was encouraging as I anticipate driving about 5,000 miles next month. But they forgot the ever important 100 - 120 mph for 2 hours for that quick trip to pick up your daughter at college for the summer break. I was impressed that it only got 40 mpg. Better yet I'm glad that our Texas DPS troopers were not on the road. Or I would still be trying to explain the fuel economy of this fine little Jet - ta me there. I really was impressed that little machine can really move and the tach and the speedo numbers do mean that this is a performance car.
KILL CARB and the US EPA
Well-known member
again i ask the question, if an excalade(ebonics) gets 8mpg but is alledgedly clean when c0, c02, 02, hc's and nox's are measured under load during testing. My VW gets 46mpg regularly supposedly puts out murderless(ebonics) amounts of nox and soot so harmful to children everywhere. but the lifetime consumption of the vw is what really means something to all of us right??? what gives EPA why could people not buy vw diesels only but sporadically in the usa something is not as it seems...
bikegeek
Veteran Member
Neat film .....interesting facts!!??.....
CNN ran a story on these results and there is a running blog on Edmunds about the Jetta used in the test.
http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/category/cat.2005VolkswagenJettaGLSTDI
It is an 05.0' PD with a manual 5 speed if memory serves. There was one blog on edmunds that talks about his discovery of venting, so I don't think it some TDI fanatic driving this thing. The 32mpg in the city was probably due to quick starts and stops. I don't think they are pulling out of every light making sure that the tach doesn't break the 2k mark, but probably driving like your average Joe.
http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/category/cat.2005VolkswagenJettaGLSTDI
It is an 05.0' PD with a manual 5 speed if memory serves. There was one blog on edmunds that talks about his discovery of venting, so I don't think it some TDI fanatic driving this thing. The 32mpg in the city was probably due to quick starts and stops. I don't think they are pulling out of every light making sure that the tach doesn't break the 2k mark, but probably driving like your average Joe.