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I have a newbie questions, There is a gas station by my house that has diesel fuel not bio diesel. Is diesel 100% diesel ? or does it have up to 5% biodiesel mixture??
 

D_Squared

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I have a newbie questions, There is a gas station by my house that has diesel fuel not bio diesel. Is diesel 100% diesel ? or does it have up to 5% biodiesel mixture??
Assuming the VOLO in your bio is Volo, IL, most stations you encounter will be around 5%. There was a thread with a list of the Illinois stations that did not have bio. If I remember correctly Meijer was on there which would take you a little out of your way to Mchenry.
 

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murphy oil /walmart

I stick with them as they are usually low price (use WM card for 3 cent discount off that) and occasionally add PS or similar additive
 

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Assuming the VOLO in your bio is Volo, IL, most stations you encounter will be around 5%. There was a thread with a list of the Illinois stations that did not have bio. If I remember correctly Meijer was on there which would take you a little out of your way to Mchenry.
Assuming that you are in Volo, IL you will encounter B11 not B5. The state of Illinois gives tax breaks to manufacturers and gas stations to sell B11 in order to increase sales/demand. The last that I had heard, V.W. had not given the blessing to B11 either, so look for non-biodiesel stations.
 

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Check this out, complete with Cetane ratings:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=200694

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I fuel with CountryMark, and Country Mark alone. Lot's of turnover here in corn belt country, all the crude is pulled from the ground here, and refined here. Then there's the 50 cetane DieselR, which gives a noticeable increase in mpg. The catch is you have to be in flyover country to get the good stuff. Most of the farm Co-Op's here sell CountryMark fuels, and standalone stations abound. I also add Powerservice on every fillup, which is more for keeping the injectors happy than a cetane boost, which is negligible at that point.
 
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2TDIs_1Cup

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Assuming that you are in Volo, IL you will encounter B11 not B5. The state of Illinois gives tax breaks to manufacturers and gas stations to sell B11 in order to increase sales/demand. The last that I had heard, V.W. had not given the blessing to B11 either, so look for non-biodiesel stations.
VW sent a letter saying that all IL residents could use B11.
 

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i have found shell to be the best in my area. everytime i try someone else chevron bp texaco phillips i see a 1-2 mpg loss. and shell is usually cheaper by 20 cents a gal.
 

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Contacted Sunoco by email, as I usually fill up at the Sunoco on the Garden State Parkway at MP142. My email was returned by their quality assurance specialist saying that the diesel fuel at this Sunocos, and others in this area, contains 4.5% bio. I emailed because the pump label does not specify any biodiesel content. I also followed up for cetane rating and am waiting for his response.

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Here is his response regarding cetane; "ASTM standards for diesel requires a minimum cetane of 40. Cetane will fluctuate depending on the cut from the refineries and that fluctuates. Typically in the 42 or 43 area."
 
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Contacted Sunoco by email, as I usually fill up at the Sunoco on the Garden State Parkway at MP142. My email was returned by their quality assurance specialist saying that the diesel fuel at this Sunocos, and others in this area, contains 4.5% bio. I emailed because the pump label does not specify any biodiesel content. I also followed up for cetane rating and am waiting for his response.
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D2 diesel is actually allowed to have up to 5% biodiesel content (aka B5). The states dictate how the pumps would be labeled. Here in TX the pumps are required to be labeled for any biodiesel content.

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Here is his response regarding cetane; "ASTM standards for diesel requires a minimum cetane of 40. Cetane will fluctuate depending on the cut from the refineries and that fluctuates. Typically in the 42 or 43 area."
That is close to what the last Infineum fuel survey data showed: 44-45 avg across the country.
 

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This is the best diesel fuel.

For fleets, transportation companies, and individuals based in Northern California driving diesel-engine vehicles, there’s now a renewable diesel available at fuel stations for about the same price as traditional diesel. California Air Resources Board (CARB) studies show that this renewable diesel can reduce greenhouse gas emissions up to 70% compared to petroleum diesel; and offers significant reduction in nitrogen oxide (NOx) and particulate matter for those concerned about air quality and health issues in regions with high output from commercial trucks.

Propel Fuels has brought this renewable fuel, called Diesel HPR (High Performance Renewable), to 18 fuel stations in Sacramento, San Jose, East Bay, Redwood City, and Fresno. Diesel HPR was created by Finland-based Neste Oil using that company’s NEXBTL renewable diesel. Diesel HPR is a low-carbon renewable fuel designated as ASTM D-975, the standard for ultra-low sulfur diesel fuel in the US. It’s also recognized as “CARB diesel” by the state agency, and is a certified fuel with the US Environmental Protection Agency.

Diesel HPR comes from renewable biomass including recycled fats and oils that can originate from sources such as waste fish oils and vegetable oils. It’s refined from renewable biomass through Neste Oil’s advanced hydrotreating technology that meets the toughest specifications required by automotive and engine manufacturers. Like biodiesel, the fuel offers fleets and consumers the advantage of using a clean fuel in vehicles without paying for vehicle conversions.

Diesel HPR can be used by any diesel vehicle. “It’s a clean, clear, odorless fuel that’s highly refined and has low sulfur and carbon,” said Rob Elam, CEO and Co-Founder of Propel Fuels, during a phone interview. “Diesel HPR exceeds conventional diesel in power, performance and value.”

Elam says there’s been tremendous interest in the fuel from owners of diesel-powered cars with Bosch technologies (such as Volkswagen, Audi, and Mercedes-Benz diesel-engine models) that have “No Biodiesel” stickers. Using biodiesel would threaten their warranties. “They’re excited to see Diesel HPR launched,” Elam said.

The fuel’s high-blend rate with reduced greenhouse gas emissions has made it very appealing to corporate and government fleets, he said. “Many fleets are moving towards the state’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard, so low carbon diesel makes sense,” Elam said. Bakeries with a fleet of Sprinters are very interested in the fuel, as are companies in the heavy-duty long-haul trucking business.

While the EPA is still mulling over 2014 production volumes under the Renewable Fuel Standard and its RIN credits, California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard and cap-and-trade credit market makes the state an appealing place to launch renewable transportation fuels. Clean Energy Fuels would attest to that through its Redeem renewable natural gas; that product is finding interest by fleets wanting to comply with California standards and utilize clean fuels to meet emissions targets.

The Renewable Fuel Standard and RIN debate has been a major concern to the biofuels industry. There has been enough interest in renewable fuels for Neste to bring a large volume of its fuel to California, Elam said. This is the first time renewable diesel is being offered as its own product; it has cost parity with regular diesel in California but its weights and measures are still being worked out by the agencies, he said.

“This renewable diesel joins a growing suite of new, cleaner transportation fuels in California thanks to our Low Carbon Fuel Standard and forward thinking companies like Propel,” said California Air Resources Board Chairman Mary Nichols, in the press release.

Propel Fuels started up in 2004 when it set up the very first public biodiesel station in Seattle. Passage of AB 32 in California motivated the company to bring renewable diesel, ethanol, and biodiesel to fuel stations across California. Oregon has passed a low-carbon fuel standard and the state of Washington is considering one. The company will expand into others states as market demand grows, but as for now, there’s “plenty of growth in California,” Elam said.

http://greenautomarket.com/propel-f...e-competitive-renewable-diesel-to-california/

http://www.greencarreports.com/news...-usable-by-any-vehicle-going-beyond-biodiesel

http://www.dieselhpr.com/

http://dieselhpr.com/assets/media/DieselHPR_Fuel_Specification.pdf

http://awakeatthewheel.net/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCWaptA1tA8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08iQ7rJzwYo



 

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While there are no Propel stations here in NH, i can state emphatically that Shell is providing the best increase in mileage and power of all the fuels i`ve used in the 2.5 years i`ve owned my Golf. The performance increase has been noticeable on the first half tank, although the exhaust is a bit more acrid than other national brands.
 

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Propel’s Diesel “HPR” Outshines Petroleum Diesel in Performance, Emissions and Value

SACRAMENTO, CA (March 18, 2015) – Propel Fuels (propelfuels.com) has launched California’s most advanced diesel fuel: Diesel HPR (High Performance Renewable) at Propel locations across Northern California. Propel’s Diesel HPR uses Neste Oil’s (nesteoil.com) NEXBTL renewable diesel, a low-carbon renewable fuel that meets petroleum diesel specifications for use in diesel engines while realizing the benefits of better performance and lower emissions.

Diesel HPR will be available at 18 Propel locations in Sacramento, San Jose, East Bay, Redwood City and Fresno. Locations, directions and real time pricing can be found on Propel’s mobile app available in the Android and Apple app stores. A complete list of locations is also available at dieselhpr.com/locations.
“Diesel HPR exceeds conventional diesel in power, performance and value,” said Rob Elam, CEO and Co-Founder of Propel. “Propel is committed to offering Californians the most advanced low carbon fuels that meet our high standards for quality and value.”

Incorporating diesel refined from renewable biomass through Neste Oil’s advanced hydrotreating technology called NEXBTL, Diesel HPR meets the toughest specifications required by automotive and engine manufacturers, enabling the fuel to be used by any diesel vehicle. Diesel HPR is designated as ASTM D-975, the standard for all ultra-low sulfur diesel fuel in the U.S., and is recognized as “CARB diesel” by the California Air Resources Board. Diesel HPR provides increased engine power and torque, as well as significant reduction in harmful tailpipe emissions, NOx emissions and particulates (PM).

“This renewable diesel joins a growing suite of new, cleaner transportation fuels in California thanks to our Low Carbon Fuel Standard and forward thinking companies like Propel,” said California Air Resources Board Chairman Mary D. Nichols.

“We are pleased to see the introduction of a low carbon fuel at California retail fueling stations,” said Tim Olson, Energy Resources Manager for the California Energy Commission. “Our state needs several options to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in the transportation sector and this cooperation between Propel Fuels and Neste Oil provides a tremendous opportunity to de-carbonize diesel fuel and help achieve our climate change goals.”

According to the U.S. Department of Energy’s Alternative Fuels Data Center, renewable diesel’s high combustion quality results in similar or better vehicle performance compared to conventional diesel, while California Air Resources Boardstudies show that renewable diesel can reach up to 70 percent greenhouse gas reduction compared to petroleum diesel.

“As California continues to lead the world in clean fuels, we need to insure that the benefits are shared by everyone. Renewable diesel provides significant immediate reductions in emissions that damage our health and change our climate, providing lasting health benefits for the disadvantaged communities that currently suffer the most from petroleum diesel pollution,” says Bill Magavern Policy Director for the Coalition for Clean Air.

“We congratulate Propel Fuels on their initiative to introduce Diesel HPR to consumers in California and are excited to be their supplier of choice with our NEXBTL renewable diesel,” said Kaisa Hietala, Neste Oil’s Executive Vice President of Renewable Products Business Area. “NEXBTL renewable diesel reduces emissions as well as enhances engine performance leading to lower maintenance and service costs. It also has excellent low-temperature properties which result in better vehicle reliability during the winter,” continues Hietala.

http://propelfuels.com/dieselhprlaunch

http://propelfuels.com/images/uploads/media_kit/DieselHPR_FAQ.pdf

http://propelfuels.com/assets/hpr-launch/docs/california-low-carbon-fuel-consumer.pdf



 
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It is interesting that you experience such a consistence performance from a 'brand' fuel station for two and half years. No I am not doubting your experience but I am somewhat surprised as D2 is one of the most fungible commodities out there and fuel stations change suppliers all the time to save as much money as possible while meeting minimum federal and state standards. There are a few exceptions in which state and/or local laws require higher cetane/lubricity/etc.

Is New Hampshire one of these?

While there are no Propel stations here in NH, i can state emphatically that Shell is providing the best increase in mileage and power of all the fuels i`ve used in the 2.5 years i`ve owned my Golf. The performance increase has been noticeable on the first half tank, although the exhaust is a bit more acrid than other national brands.
 
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