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Old January 3rd, 2017, 06:14   #1
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I've been driving for over 60 years with more cars than I can remember, and over 200K miles in some, and I had never had a broken spring until my 2010 TDI JSW which has now broken it's 3rd spring, just weeks before my buyback date. The first two were rear springs, this one is the left strut.
Surely this should be a recall matter.
What do members think?
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 07:05   #2
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Yep, it happens. See it on a LOT of Ford products, too. A few on some ChryCo products. Also quite a few MB products. I wonder if the supplier is the same.

If every car manufacturer recalled every last thing that has a pattern failure, then there would not be many cars left on the road.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 07:12   #3
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recall is for a reason, not just because it will fail and need repair.

if the spring failure made the wheel fall off, or the tire rub on the fender, it would be a different matter.

for the most part, seems there are more subtle effects from the failed springs.

when my rear snapped, the only hint was a creak when I went over a shallow dip at the end of my driveway.

how did you know the front spring broke?
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 11:56   #4
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I had an Isuzu Trooper that broke left rear spring several times.
When I fixed the driveway entrance so there was not a bump at the entrance the springs quit breaking
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when my rear snapped, the only hint was a creak when I went over a shallow dip at the end of my driveway.

how did you know the front spring broke?
I didn't know I had two broken rear springs until the dealer service told me and charged me $500.

But when the front spring went, there was a loud clang when turning hard left or hard right. The mechanic (not the dealer) immediately suspected a strut and sure enough when he put it up on the hoist, it was there plain to see.

The bummer is, it effectively decreases my buyback
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 14:33   #6
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You probably could drive it to the buy back as-is.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 22:03   #8
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I'd sure be curious to see a couple pictures of those broken springs. I've never seen a coil spring break, only leafs on pickups, & those were overloaded & abused.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 22:39   #9
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I didn't know I had two broken rear springs until the dealer service told me and charged me $500.

But when the front spring went, there was a loud clang when turning hard left or hard right. The mechanic (not the dealer) immediately suspected a strut and sure enough when he put it up on the hoist, it was there plain to see.

The bummer is, it effectively decreases my buyback
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1) Yep so many springs does seem excessive, but it's not uncommon
for VW springs to fail apparently, although I never had broke springs
in other cars (or my VW for that matter) in over 38 years.

2) Snow, salt doesn't help. You get corrosion, pitting, then fatigue crack.

3) Don't fix it, sell it back as is. Just be careful and drive conservatively.
It could (will likely) affect handling and stopping to some extent.

I recently replaced my shocks and struts myself. I did not buy new springs,
and did not want aftermarket lower springs. I was nervous taking it apart,
I'd find broken springs and have a show stopper. Springs near perfect, with
the factory finish is excellent shape. There was a little rust at the bottom
of rear springs where they sit in lower control arm cup. Typically they crack
down there in the first loop from what I have seen online.

Cost to replace rear springs should not be $500. It is about an hour of labor,
total both sides. The cost for a pair of springs is $120. $250 should have done
it, $300 even, but $500 is a little steep.

Struts are going to be closer to $500 to replace springs. However if a strut spring
breaks change the spring and struts out both sides as well (for a car you are keeping).
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I'd sure be curious to see a couple pictures of those broken springs. I've never seen a coil spring break, only leafs on pickups, & those were overloaded & abused.


This is the rear broken spring from my 2009.

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/data/ph...5214b40121.jpg


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Old January 4th, 2017, 06:04   #11
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Holy rust! Im still on original springs as of 240k miles and residing in florida.
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You probably could drive it to the buy back as-is.
I could have. If my buyback was this week, I might have. But, since it's in February, I grimaced and had it fixed.
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Much safer on the road.

good decision
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Look to see if the coil was rusty at the break.
I understand that they hang the coils on a hook for painting or powder coat and where the coil hangs it misses getting paint and the rust starts there and it causes stress risers that begin the failure mode.
I think I can see a rusty spot right at the break.
Personally I think that this is a workmanship failure and should be covered if within warranty on the replacement.
If anyone replaces springs look for this and prime and paint the area f you find gaps in paint.
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Old January 4th, 2017, 16:51   #15
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they always break at the bottom on the rear on those cars. We had both break on while around 2000 kms from home which was a pain, but not an issue. That was at around 110k (70k miles). The right front spring went at around 95k (55k miles), but that was probably caused by jammed top bearing jamming.

Until this car, I'd never changed coil springs under 200k
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