So far nobody has got oil temp. readings. Thats too bad there is alot you can do with oil and water temp. delta readingsInstalled my polarFIS yesterday with the 0.3.0 beta firmware. I have the same 32* reading for my oil temp. I feel like it just isn't supported by our cars, hopefully I’m wrong.
2 regens, both @ 459 miles! What is your !soot @ around 200 miles? When did you tune? My normal mixed driving @ 200 miles below. My mixed driving soot @ only 5.0+- m gr, and !soot @ 24 m gr.
My soot seems to be lessening as I run the miles up too. The last (passive regen) freeway run burnt back any around town soot during the freeway run back to zero and held it at that until active regen. I cant help but wonder if the tune is somehow "relearning" and running better thru time/miles... like older obdII?I think my Polar is whacked or my car is broken (no codes). I have seen the weirdest regen cycles and the DPF Km has gone all the way to 700km even though it has run through several rengens and brought !Soot m gr. down to 0.5. A lot of my travel is on the highway and I never seen any Soot m gr. increase even when running quick trips around town. This has been happening for the last 3k km or so.
my 2015 Passat reads oil temps.So far nobody has got oil temp. readings. Thats too bad there is alot you can do with oil and water temp. delta readings
Id be curious about the coolant to oil temperature deltas. That's the temperature difference between the two, preferably no more than 10*. Its a big thing used in the powerstroke community to read the condition of the oil and EGR cooler. Id be curious what oil temps the tdi does when and the deltas?my 2015 Passat reads oil temps.
I will be driving from So Cal to Vegas tomorrow (Monday) around noon pacific time. What kind of readings are you curious about I can keep an eye on them and report back
Yeah, well, they’re Ford guys. Sooooooo....Thanks for the effort. Does do the JSW or Passat have any extra engine oil cooling such as water to oil or an external air to oil cooler? What were the ambient temps.? That oil is pretty hot, I believe 240* is boiling point territory? The Ford powerstroke guys get pretty excited at that oil temp., I wonder if a big v8 takes high temps differently? They cringe at any temp. deltas more than 10* or 225*ish oil
Hotrod.com said:A quality conventional motor oil will tolerate oil sump temperatures of up to 250 degrees, but starts breaking down over 275 degrees. The traditional approach is to try to hold oil temperatures between 230 and 260 degrees. A full-synthetic oil will withstand sump temperatures in excess of 300 degrees, and for hard-core professional racing, some oval-track race teams are experimenting with ultra-thin, specially formulated, race-only synthetics operating at 350 degrees or even higher.
Is this the case on all JSW’s? I ask because my 2013 and 2014 Passat’s were not able to read oil temp, but my 2015 is.It seems strange the JSW wouldn't have oil temp reading ability, at least that's what has been confirmed so far.
I’m guess you are talking about the bottom reading in the first and third pics? I believe that is the fluid temperature reading coming out of the DSG clutch pack. It does fluctuate a little bit in stop and go driving and when I accelerate from a stop.What is the last temp p.i.d. on your display?
No, you can see in the 2nd and 4th pics, parameter 4 is !soot. I prefer that reading as it counts up and once it hits 23.5, I know a regen will be starting soon. If I watch the regular soot reading, it can start to drop on a long freeway drive and it is not consistent at all for tracking regen.Do you read soot m gr (actual soot output). For me I've found (!)soot m gr (VW assumed soot) only useful in telling me when to expect an upcoming active regen. The (!)soot seems to be the only one of the multiple triggers that actually activates the regen.
That's funny, they didn't screen me out either?? I've owned more Fords than VW s... Ooops. ..Yeah, well, they’re Ford guys. Sooooooo....
(calm down people, my last name is Ford. I’m allowed to talk ****)
Mk6, I would ass u me that's the caseIs this the case on all JSW’s? I ask because my 2013 and 2014 Passat’s were not able to read oil temp, but my 2015 is.
That's an interesting use. Id been using the 0.0 to 7.0 then back to 0,0, because I watch how long the regen last. Ill be checking into compulsive disorder school tomorrow.No, you can see in the 2nd and 4th pics, parameter 4 is !soot. I prefer that reading as it counts up and once it hits 23.5, I know a regen will be starting soon. If I watch the regular soot reading, it can start to drop on a long freeway drive and it is not consistent at all for tracking regen.
When monitoring the !soot reading, (on my car anyways) when the reading hits 23.5mg, it will start preparing to initiate the regen. If you have exhaust temps on the same screen like I do, you can see the exhaust temperatures start to ramp up. And the regen will be complete by the time it hits 5.6mg.That's an interesting use. Id been using the 0.0 to 7.0 then back to 0,0, because I watch how long the regen last. Ill be checking into compulsive disorder school tomorrow.
I had it on my 2013 Passat TDI SELSo... nobody here has a Kessy running polar?
Do you think this might be related to ambient temperature? I've noted similar behavior and it seems to me it only occurs when the ambient is below some number which might be 5 or 10 C. I ran 730+ km without an active regen a few weeks ago, on the highway with ambient below 0 C. I'm pretty sure one of the Soot mgr's ranged between 0 and 5 the entire time, I barely took the car out of 6th for 500 km, cruising 90ish, roads a bit sketchy at times.I think my Polar is whacked or my car is broken (no codes). I have seen the weirdest regen cycles and the DPF Km has gone all the way to 700km even though it has run through several rengens and brought !Soot m gr. down to 0.5. A lot of my travel is on the highway and I never seen any Soot m gr. increase even when running quick trips around town. This has been happening for the last 3k km or so.
Did you have to install a special cable for the polar FIS?I had it on my 2013 Passat TDI SEL
Do you think this might be related to ambient temperature? I've noted similar behavior and it seems to me it only occurs when the ambient is below some number which might be 5 or 10 C. I ran 730+ km without an active regen a few weeks ago, on the highway with ambient below 0 C. I'm pretty sure one of the Soot mgr's ranged between 0 and 5 the entire time, I barely took the car out of 6th for 500 km, cruising 90ish, roads a bit sketchy at times.
CARB has a temperature limit below which they don't test and I have long suspected that the engine behavior is different when the ambient temperature is different than the range in which testing occurs. If you have watched Felix Domke's VERY interesting presentations on the subject you might remember he noticed a number of smoking guns in several manufacturers emissions software related to off test cycle operation. I'm not sure they were all 'fixed'.
just the module that came with the polar module.Did you have to install a special cable for the polar FIS?
Snapped this for you today. Here's my !soot just under 200mi. My last regen was triggered at 459 miles again even though my !soot was way below the 25 m gr. I drive mostly highway as well. Not sure the difference between our 2 cars, though yours seems to regen more than it should for a tuned car.So far nobody has got oil temp. readings. Thats too bad there is alot you can do with oil and water temp. delta readings
2 regens, both @ 459 miles! What is your !soot @ around 200 miles? When did you tune? My normal mixed driving @ 200 miles below. My mixed driving soot @ only 5.0+- m gr, and !soot @ 24 m gr.
I dont understand two things about MY Kerma tune.
The first is MY active always @ 200 miles or less (other than the last one rare mostly freeway run @ 285 miles).
The second is I often hear Kerma stage 1, stage 1.5, stage 2. When directly asking Kerma about what tune stage I had I can almost see them go cross eyed, like I was talking Greek?? Was told we just do one. Am I missing something?
My soot seems to be lessening as I run the miles up too. The last (passive regen) freeway run burnt back any around town soot during the freeway run back to zero and held it at that until active regen. I cant help but wonder if the tune is somehow "relearning" and running better thru time/miles... like older obdII?
You won't regret the purchase. Mine was at the dealer for the dreaded pano roof leak and they didn't say boo about it. I don't think it would be an issue. Seems like a decent amount of work to pull out when you have to head to the dealer for service.I will likely be ordering the Polar FIS over the holiday break for my KESSEY JSW mainly bc I want to know when the regen will happen. I interrupted the last 2 regens and Im not too pleased about it.
Just wondering if you guys unplug your Polar FIS before you take it to the dealer?
I have already referred 3 other TDI owners to the PolarFIS module and all of them love it. I am sure you will too.I will likely be ordering the Polar FIS over the holiday break for my KESSEY JSW mainly bc I want to know when the regen will happen. I interrupted the last 2 regens and Im not too pleased about it.
Just wondering if you guys unplug your Polar FIS before you take it to the dealer?
Where was your !soot level at? My miles between regens have been going up. I've only read off 4 or 5 items that when hit that will trigger the active regen, I have to think the computer factors in a relearn process of sorts also.Snapped this for you today. Here's my !soot just under 200mi. My last regen was triggered at 459 miles again even though my !soot was way below the 25 m gr.
though yours seems to regen more than it should for a tuned car.
You won't regret the purchase. Mine was at the dealer for the dreaded pano roof leak and they didn't say boo about it. I don't think it would be an issue. Seems like a decent amount of work to pull out when you have to head to the dealer for service.
Unplug no. Turn off Yes. Just go in the menu and turn off.Just wondering if you guys unplug your Polar FIS before you take it to the dealer?
Even if you wanted to hide its addition its very concealed with no other trace when turned off. I've had mine off temparily due to a biannual smog check (only so it wouldn't conflict OBD readings when they plug in). It passed with flying colors. Plus a Karma non delete BTW. .. Seems like a decent amount of work to pull out when you have to head to the dealer for service.
I don't think the mkVI. supports oil temp readings. Polar supposedly focused on fixing this with the last update. No bueno. I do have intake temps tho. As already noted in previous threads the Oil Temp reading does not seem to function on the MKVI. I also seem to have no reading on the Intake temperature which stays at 13.5° C at all times. Just wondering if anyone else is monitoring Intake temperature.
For Intake Temp. try switching it from reading Engine to Diagnostic. Screens>Visualizations>Advanced>View Options>Diagnostic instead of Engine.I also seem to have no reading on the Intake temperature which stays at 13.5° C at all times. Just wondering if anyone else is monitoring Intake temperature.
How did it react after updates? Any idea what triggered any of your issues? I am presently not able to reactivate the Polar after shutting it off to have the bi annual smog check. I also added a new Kenwood with Maestro idatalink that also ties into the OBD11. I'm guessing that is an issue? I hold the o.k. button down for 20 seconds and it comes up to the pictured page below but when trying to add new p.i.d.'s it locks on the next picture.Got the polar FIS last fall, installed and LOVED IT. I no longer commute to work and have to watch my regens carefully as a result. This helped take the guessing game out
display started dropping out within about six weeks. I’ve pulled it and updated the firmware four times since then and every single time, I have more errors, fault codes and “symptoms” (horn/locking constantly, radio working intermittently) pulling it this morning to send it back for repair and hopefully when it’s out the issues will resolve. It’s a great product but I’m hearing more than a few have issues and have to be sent to Spain to be repaired, which is a pain. Just a heads up to others.