I'm going to change out my flywheel and clutch due to it making noise. I have heard that it will cause vibrations. I'm thinking about an XTD clutch or Gripforce. Anybody have any experience with these two?? 
dual mass flywheel to single flywheel conversion
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Superrabbitman
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No experience with those two but I have changed numerous clutches on these cars and converted every one to a single mass flywheel. Used Sachs or Valeo clutches and never, ever had a problem with vibration with either the diesel or the gasoline motors. The dual mass is overkill and just another (extremely expensive)thing that can fail.
yatzee
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valeo is considered weaker than the sachs kit, but that won't matter if you don't mod. I know someone local to me who is running an XTD stage 2 kit. He is very happy with it - I've driven the car, and the clutch isn't at all heavy
turbocharged798
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Never heard of those clutches. I recommend the Sachs G60/VR6 with a regular non-lightened flywheel. Very solid setup. You will get a bit of transmission rattle at idle, but it's not that noticeable with a non-lightened flywheel. Mjmautohaus had the kit for $350.I'm going to change out my flywheel and clutch due to it making noise. I have heard that it will cause vibrations. I'm thinking about an XTD clutch or Gripforce. Anybody have any experience with these two??
Curious Chris
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I like my South Bend Endurance clutch: feels like stock on the clutch pedal, will hold more torque than I plan to go to. I bought mine from Peter at IDparts: http://www.idparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=76_102&products_id=863 and don't forget to order the motor mount bolt kit too: http://www.idparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=76_102&products_id=726 And then it is a good idea to have the crankshaft seal available when you do it to0 http://www.idparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=76_102&products_id=625 as if you pull the flywheel and it is leaking you can fix it right then and there.
Corsair
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I changed the DFM on mine to a G60 VR6 unit. (can't remember where I bought the components- if IDparts sells them, that's where I got it). The change between DFM and solid flywheel is very minor. Average driver probably wouldn't notice the change at all.
Dimitri16V
Top Post Dawg
what is the weight of the g60 flywheel ?
coalminer16
Top Post Dawg
No. If you do have a lightened flywheel you will notice it a lot. The reason for the dual mass was that it absorbed the engine shock from each piston firing. It vibrates a little more at idle and since it is a SMF there isn't anything extra moving on the flywheel to absorb the piston firing. But that means there is less things to come apart.
This one is 22 lbs. http://metalmanparts.com/product.sc?productId=322&categoryId=49
You should know that the flywheel I got from him did not have a TDC mark so I had to transcribe it.
Clutch chatter is noticeable but just about as loud as the diesel clatter.
You should know that the flywheel I got from him did not have a TDC mark so I had to transcribe it.
Clutch chatter is noticeable but just about as loud as the diesel clatter.
coalminer16
Top Post Dawg
Depends on the year of car on if you need the TDC mark. My PD doesn't but I think the ALH cars need them. Never done a belt on one of those.
tomtom1989
Veteran Member
I've got a Valeo single mass conversion, think i got it off Boraparts actually. Great clutch kit although its a lot heavier than the standard clutch (the standard clutch was the lightest clutch i've ever had though)
running 155BHP not sure on the torque
running 155BHP not sure on the torque
Dimitri16V
Top Post Dawg
not on earlier TDIs although there are alignment marks on belt cover and harmonic balancer
Dimitri16V
Top Post Dawg
thats lighter than A3 gasser flywheel ...good info