ABS coding after manual conversion - need code

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I have not had my ECU reprogrammed yet as I am performing shakedown runs and working on little items here and there but I do want to get my ABS light off.
It is returning the following MIL
Thursday,05,January,2012,00:14:28:45329
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.1
Data version: 20111209

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4B0-614-517.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 4B0 614 517 G
Component and/or Version: ABS/ESP front 3428
Software Coding: 04257
Work Shop Code: WSC 05311
VCID: 254AEAD7BFFA26C

1 Faults Found:
01119 - Gear Recognition Signal

I tried recoding to 04255 from 04257 per some info I have seen on this forum, but it will not take the code. It does have a pop-up dialogue telling me that I have to Log In and calibrate (my word) the steering angle sensor. First do these cars have an angle sensor? Second, does anyone know the ABS code for the manual transmission?
 

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Yep, went there right after posting. Jef at Ross-Tech helped me find the page. However, I can't seem to get it to take the code.

First you have to log in and enter the code which for me was 09557 per the options and features listed on the tag in the trunk. (I also tried 09577 which Oilhammer suggested in another post.)

Next you have to go to coding which is where I changed mine from 04257 to 04255. When I click Do It! it keeps the 04257 coding.

After this I went into Basic Setting to calibrate the steering angle. I am supposed to go to Group 005 but there is nothing there but "Error".

Any help would be appreciated in pointing out what I am doing wrong.

TIA
 

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Just curious, is this still the original ECU?
with the gear recognition fault I would think yes.

In other postings I though it was said that it is not possible with the original ECU. I hope they were wrong, I would love to go down this path.
 

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Yes I have not had the ecu reprogrammed yet
 

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One thought is to try and unplug the ECU and then code the ABS unit. See if it holds its coding that way. I wonder if the ECU is "telling" the ABS unit that the car is an AUTO. How is the Cluster taking the code? It may be doing the same thing.

I've had similar issues on one of my cars where i tried to change the cluster "K" value setting and it just won't keep it because it says that the car is Canadian and that value is not allowed in Canada. Even when i try to change the "location" setting on the car it won't let me. Something must be "telling" it that it's still a Canadian car.

Just my $0.02.
 

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I'm running into the same problem now on the 05 passat I just manual swapped. The code I'm getting though is "module not coded correctly". Nothing about gear indicator.

Tried unplugging the ecu and it still wouldn't take the new coding with correct login codes and new software codes. I'm beginning to think these are one time only code-able. There's a couple companies that repair the bosch 5.7 abs modules for under $300, might have to get a blank one from them and recode it to what we want.
 

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Is your ecu reprogrammed yet?
Did you unplug your TCU too?
what error are you getting on the ABS module. Same as mine?

I talked with Module Masters and they were of no help.
 

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Is your ecu reprogrammed yet?
Did you unplug your TCU too?
what error are you getting on the ABS module. Same as mine?

I talked with Module Masters and they were of no help.
Yes, ecu is programmed and tcu is out. Ecu is totally happy about trans being missing. Only code I'm getting in ABS module is "module not coded correctly".

This place will refurb an abs module for $140 with lifetime warranty. They say you have to code it afterwards. Seems like we might have to go that route if modules will only accept a code once at birth so to speak.
 

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What are you using for login and soft coding?
also is there anything in group 5 of basic settings for your steering angle calibration? Nothing in mine.
 
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I am wondering if the ABS eeprom is a one time write only and not rewriteable. That would explain why you can't change the coding after its done.

Early MKIV ABS pump have the same issue. People for years have tried to temporally turn off EDL with VCDS and had no luck.
 

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What are you using for login and soft coding?
also is there anything in group 5 of basic settings for your steering angle calibration? Nothing in mine.
I centered the steering wheel, logging in with 09557 and tried to change coding from 04257 to 04255 where 5 is for the manual trans as per ross-tech's website. I thought it worked in the 04 I tried it in first, but apparently I didn't look close enough at the coding to notice that it didn't change. My steering angle sensor is group 1 in basic settings.

I am wondering if the ABS eeprom is a one time write only and not rewriteable. That would explain why you can't change the coding after its done.

Early MKIV ABS pump have the same issue. People for years have tried to temporally turn off EDL with VCDS and had no luck.
That's what I'm beginning to think. How strange, do an auto to manual swap and have to change an abs module. Only VW.......:mad:
 

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I reread Jef's (Ross-Tech) email about recoding and I got it to take. Here it is:

Your car does have the Steering Angle Sensor (G85) in it. All cars with "ESP" (button below the center vents) use the G85 to know how much steering input is being applied by the driver.

You are correct in that 04255 is coding for a manual transmission. Coding a Bosch 5.7 module has several different steps:

1 - Login to enable coding (09555)
2 - Perform soft coding (04255)
3 - Login to enable Basic Settings (40168)
4 - Perform G85 calibration in Basic Settings group 001.

These steps must be performed in a single scanning session. Soft coding changes will not be retained if a G85 calibration is not performed.

I still have 2 faults:
Sunday,08,January,2012,14:36:48:45329
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.1
Data version: 20111209

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4B0-614-517.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 4B0 614 517 G
Component and/or Version: ABS/ESP front 3428
Software Coding: 04255
Work Shop Code: WSC 05311
VCID: 254AEAD7BFFA26C
2 Faults Found:
01119 - Gear Recognition Signal
35-00 - -
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
35-00 - -

It may be because I have not had my ECU reprogrammed yet.

Matt, since yours is reprogrammed, follow Jef's directions above. In particular the 09555 Login
 

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As stated, use the 09555 login code. That rightmost '5' means manual trans too, just like the soft coding for the module.
 

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Yes I understand that now. I thought you had to use the code as the car was originally configured. Still I have 2 errors I cannot get to go away.
 

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Bingo! Score yet another point for TDI Club and MoGolf's infinite knowledge. Just did it and it took the 04255 coding. No fault codes.
 

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bump. I've run into a similar issue here on my 4th or 5th manual swap. This one is ASR rather than ESP so the coding is a little different per the ross-tech label files.



Either way, I can't get the ABS module to accept my entry. Per the label file I should be changing to 00010 but it always reverts back to 00011.
ABS/ASR 5.3 Does not require security access login. Even when I try to log in it fails to accept it. I've been looking on ross-tech but the wiki for 5.3 says nothing beyond what pops up in the label.

I get these errors:

Thursday,24,April,2014,16:35:45:32736
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-111-ASR.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 3B0 614 111
Component and/or Version: ABS/ASR 5.3 FRONT D00
Software Coding: 00011
Work Shop Code: WSC 05314
VCID: D3AF0B5D218A2886F91-513C
2 Faults Found:

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
35-00 - -
18263 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1855 - 35-00 - Software Version Monitoring


I have already had the ECU updated. Cruise works in all gears, clutch and brake pedals cancel and I even did a start interlock. The only evidence that anything is awry is the ASR indicator on the cluster. There is an air conditioning data bus communication code in the ECU but I assume this is unrelated (and the AC works).

Anyone out there run into this?
 

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Well as soon as I made post 19, I wondered whether or not I had actually tried 00012.

So I went out and tried and it worked. It took the entry but it still has the 18263 fault which may or may not have been there before I started. ASR indicator is still lit too.

I'll leave this post up for posterity. ASR folks might find it useful someday.
 

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I found it takes a few times to actually get the coding fault to clear after recoding. Had to clear it 3 times before it went away on my car, resetting the key each time.
 

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Yes - forcing a recode causes the canbus to relearn what modules are installed. Useful for deleted the crappy TPMS on the Touareg.
 

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I did recode the CAN gateway, several times actually (hit do it) but I'll try it again now that I've got ABS set up right.

I'll be able to drive this car around a while dice the owner lives in Mexico. Work these bugs out.

Thanks for chiming in guys :)
 
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