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Old December 16th, 2014, 05:09   #1
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Default Mk7 Golf after market shocks issue

There has been a change in the shock tube diameter dimension of the front shock, which has decreased from 55mm diameter to a 50mm diameter shock tube.

The 55mm front shock was first announced by Bilstein on 14.08.2014 (August 14, 2014) as shown here at http://www.bilsteinus.com/news-event...hatch-vw-golf/ and listed as Part# 35-229872 for the B6 HD version front shock. There was no indication of any other specification. I ordered these shocks from my long time supplier TIRERACK, along with the B6 rear shocks. The B6 rear shocks fit without any problems.

Late yesterday afternoon, my VW dealer mechanic/technician called me to tell me that the Bilstein front shocks I supplied him with did not fit my 2105 Mk7 Golf TDI S 6-speed, which I took delivery of in late September. My Mk7 had the smaller outside strut diameter 50mm front shocks and the 55mm shocks I supplied him would not fit!

A call to Frank Zuonz at ThyssenKrupp Bilstein of America, AFTERMARKET & MOTORSPORTS HEADQUARTERS - WEST (the Bilstein EAST office was already closed) clarified the problem, when he indicated that an additional configuration shock would be available to address this front shock diameter dimension change from 55mm to 50mm, in about 12 weeks. He also indicated that their online catalog had been updated to reflect this additional VW Mk7 product change.

The links to the two different Bilstein front shocks are as follows...

55mm Outside Strut Diameter (available now)
http://cart.bilsteinus.com/product/35-229872/421805/FWD

50mm Outside Strut Diameter (coming soon)
http://cart.bilsteinus.com/product/35-229865/421805/FWD

Unfortunately, if you click on the 'View Vehicle Applications' link, for the two Bilstein Mk7 model front shocks, you'll see that there currently is no way to identify what front shock diameter model you may have, as the two listings are identical. You'll have to measure the diameter of your front shock to find out! I would hope VW would help clarify this identity problem, by providing additional info as to which Mk7 Golf has what diameter size front shock? Certainly the vehicle production date of when this change was made would be very helpful.

You will ofcourse, have to make sure that any other after market brand front shock you may wish to use, is available in the dimension to fit your mounting, 55mm or 50mm.
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Old December 16th, 2014, 09:49   #2
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how much do these run for a full set (front & rear)?
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Old December 17th, 2014, 12:35   #3
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AN UPDATE -
A discussion with my VW mechanic and others, while I was at my VW dealer picking up my 2015 Mk7 Golf TDI S 6-speed this morning, suggests that the more readly available Bilstein B6 front shock for the 2015 VW Golf, Part Number: 35-229872 is only for the Golf GTI, which accepts the larger 55mm diameter shock tube, because of its heavier duty suspension system. And the Mk7 GTI has been available for a while longer than the Mk7 Golf TDI. So it doesn't appear to be a question of change, but one of simply the VW Golf model involved.

The 2015 Mk7 VW R and VW GTD may also use the 55mm shock, but they are not yet in the U.S. and it's unclear if they ever will be.

There are no 2015 VW Golf TDI configurations using the 55mm shock, only the 50mm is in evidence, which is the Bilstein Part Number: 35-229865, but not yet available. So this is the one required if you're driving a 2015 VW Golf TDI S, SE, or SEL configuration, based on what we know today.
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Old December 19th, 2014, 21:44   #4
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Good to know I'd like to run these in conjunction with the VWR springs.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 05:52   #5
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An UPDATE -
Tirerack said yesterday that they had some info from Bilstein on Jan. 28 that the 50mm B6 front shocks for the 2015 Golf TDI are about 4 weeks from delivery. I asked Tirerack for an update since I was unable to obtain any availability info directly from Bilstein. I've used Bilstein products for decades, and am certainly dissapointed that getting product availability directly from them is now impossibe, based on my many and recent efforts.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 05:52   #6
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FINAL UPDATE -
The 50mm version of the Bilstein B6 front shocks for the 2015 VW Golf TDI are being delivered by UPS today from Tirerack! So these shocks are now available, at least at this source. Weather permitting they will be installed shortly. I trust they will perform like our previous Bilstein B6 shocks have on our earlier vehicles, including our 2002 Golf GLS 5-speed, 2003.6 Golf GL 5-speed and 1983 E28 BMW, plus others. If not, I'll comment.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 14:35   #7
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A quick note about todays Bilstein B6 road tests -
March 12, 2015

The new Bilstein B6 shocks are finally on my 2015 VW Mk7 Golf S TDI 6-speed and it handles great. Just as I anticipated it would and just as our two VW Golf Mk4's have after they were also fitted with Bilstein B6 shocks, years ago.

While the Mk7 VW Golf chassis is a big improvement over the Mk4, the new Mk7 can still benefit from the Bilstein B6's. I say this having driven the Mk7 over 3,000 miles before installing the new Bilstein B6's, earlier this week.

The Bilstein's are certainly worth the cost and their contribution to the VW stock springs control, are always the best that I've experienced, compared to other shock absorber brands I've used with stock springs. I've installed Bilstein B6 shocks on no less than a dozen of our own cars over the years, plus quite a few on friends automobiles and they've always proven to be the best in terms of working with the stock springs, especially on German cars, such as our own BMW and VW cars, for the past 30 years.

The only thing I wish was better on these current Bilstein's on our new 2015 VW Golf, is that the rebound control is not as fast or as firm as I would prefer, to better control fast undulating road services, such as whoop-de-doo or roller coaster roads, as some people call them.

I had this same experience with the Bilstein B6's on my 1983 5-series BMW. I sent the BMW's shocks to Bilstein to have them revalved for improved rebound control, which brought them fully up to my liking. However, since this type of driving is now only 5% of my vehicle use, if even that, it will certainly be fine with this 2015 VW Golf TDI.

I am no longer involved in competitive racing or track events, but do want improved handling in our daily drivers. So I've long since given up involving after market springs and other brands of shocks, on our cars now primarily used for travel and some spirited driving, not competition. Bilstein products deliver what I am looking for and with their exceptional longevity in my experience, for over 40 years of using their products.

I'd only add that when we sell one of our cars, the new owner ALWAYS comments on how well the car rides and handles! That pretty much says it all, as far as I am concerned.

-Rod
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Rod,

I had a problem with the rear shocks on my 2015 GSW TDI S.
The rear Bilstein B6 shock rubber bushing came out of the shock and made the bottom of the shock move sideways causing a noise.

Could have they been installed incorrectly or missing a bracket?.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by ROD-TDI View Post
A quick note about todays Bilstein B6 road tests -
March 12, 2015

The new Bilstein B6 shocks are finally on my 2015 VW Mk7 Golf S TDI 6-speed and it handles great. Just as I anticipated it would and just as our two VW Golf Mk4's have after they were also fitted with Bilstein B6 shocks, years ago.

While the Mk7 VW Golf chassis is a big improvement over the Mk4, the new Mk7 can still benefit from the Bilstein B6's. I say this having driven the Mk7 over 3,000 miles before installing the new Bilstein B6's, earlier this week.

The Bilstein's are certainly worth the cost and their contribution to the VW stock springs control, are always the best that I've experienced, compared to other shock absorber brands I've used with stock springs. I've installed Bilstein B6 shocks on no less than a dozen of our own cars over the years, plus quite a few on friends automobiles and they've always proven to be the best in terms of working with the stock springs, especially on German cars, such as our own BMW and VW cars, for the past 30 years.

The only thing I wish was better on these current Bilstein's on our new 2015 VW Golf, is that the rebound control is not as fast or as firm as I would prefer, to better control fast undulating road services, such as whoop-de-doo or roller coaster roads, as some people call them.

I had this same experience with the Bilstein B6's on my 1983 5-series BMW. I sent the BMW's shocks to Bilstein to have them revalved for improved rebound control, which brought them fully up to my liking. However, since this type of driving is now only 5% of my vehicle use, if even that, it will certainly be fine with this 2015 VW Golf TDI.

I am no longer involved in competitive racing or track events, but do want improved handling in our daily drivers. So I've long since given up involving after market springs and other brands of shocks, on our cars now primarily used for travel and some spirited driving, not competition. Bilstein products deliver what I am looking for and with their exceptional longevity in my experience, for over 40 years of using their products.

I'd only add that when we sell one of our cars, the new owner ALWAYS comments on how well the car rides and handles! That pretty much says it all, as far as I am concerned.

-Rod
How are the shocks holding up 3yr later and are you still on your OEM springs? We still don't have a good selection of options and I just raised my car back up for the winter. I won't be lowering again until I get a set of the MSS springs for the TDI. At some point, I'll want to do struts/shocks and wondering if the B6 are still the way to go. The Koni reactive struts sound interesting but of course, nothing for our applications yet.

Thanks for any feedback you can offer.
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