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VW MKVI-A6 Golf family including Jetta SportWagen (~ 2010-2014) Discussions area for A6/MkVI (2010-2014) Golf and Golf Wagons (Jetta Sportwagon in the USA).

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Old December 3rd, 2015, 20:08   #31
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They both make great exhausts. It really comes down to personal preference. The 409 option isn't as shiny, but is lighter in weight and a bit cheaper. I'd recommend at least a resonator. You can always splice in the factory suitcase muffler if it's too loud for you.
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Old December 3rd, 2015, 20:39   #32
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They both make great exhausts. It really comes down to personal preference. The 409 option isn't as shiny, but is lighter in weight and a bit cheaper. I'd recommend at least a resonator. You can always splice in the factory suitcase muffler if it's too loud for you.
Aha, so just not as thick of a gauge. I personally don't care if it's shiny or not. As it is, I've always had soot covering the back of my trunk hatch, and my driveway/street isn't paved, so anything shiny doesn't stay that way for long.

I read on some other threads about the engine burning oil (not the diesel variety) after several thousand miles. Something I should worry about, or not really?
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Old December 4th, 2015, 07:07   #33
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I checked and fuel does get cut off when brake is applied on my 2012 MKVI with Malone tune.

If I used my Golf as a track car, it would be nice to be able to hit the brake and accelerator simultaneously to add boost.
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Bummer, but thanks for checking, Perry01. Yeah, the mid-corner transition from braking to acceleration often sucks and is usually abrupt to re-engage when back on the throttle.

Left foot braking lets you preload the chassis with power to stabilize it while cornering or lets you have the drivetrain ready to put down power the instant the brake is released. It gives you better control of the overall dynamics of the car.

I used to "road dyno" some of my past cars by doing an acceleration run, but maintaining speed with the brake and thereby making a greater load to the motor, slowly letting off the brakes and letting the tach sweep all the way through the power band you want to log. So, 4th gear, under braking, but accelerating while braking, from 30 to 90 or something like that. Fun and informative!
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Old December 25th, 2015, 11:32   #34
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I am interested in a stage 2 tune.

Two questions:

Is there any negatives to not making any modifications to the exhaust system?

Is the total price (with the dsg tune) ~$1050? Since the dsg tune is not included in the price of the ecu tune?

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Old December 26th, 2015, 08:30   #35
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I've had the Malone 1.5 for about 25,000 miles now with no problem, and the car is always fun to drive (I have the 6 sp std transmission). I put it on the dyno (dynojet) after the tune was done and got 162 hp and 293 tq. I average about 44-45 MPG on mostly two lane rural roads. I love driving this car, but have to fight my wife for possession. She loves it as much as I do.

I'm waiting for VW to notify me of the fix for their EPA cheating and if I understand what's happening all they need to do with my 2014 JSW is adjust the software. I've contacted the technician who installed my 1.5 tune and he said that for another $100 he would reinstall the tune after VW made their changes, which would bring me back to where I am now. But I think I'll just pay the extra and go for the Malone 2.0 tune and now I just need to decide if I want to do the delete also. In my county they only smog vehicles when you buy or sell, and I'll be keeping my little JSW for many years so smogging is not a problem.

I'll be spending some time on this forum to eveluate the pros and cons of the 2.0 tune with and without deleting.
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Old December 26th, 2015, 20:44   #36
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I wouldn't let them touch your ecm, once they reflash forward beware you might not enjoy your car nearly as much. JMO
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Old December 26th, 2015, 21:53   #37
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I have an appointment monday to spend my Goodwill money on a Stage 2 Malone Tune, I pretty much only have to pay the shop fee out of pocket, so bout $150ish

keeping the dpf for now, when I get some vacation property secured I'll just register it there, delete dpf and pay for an update.

cant wait, been wanting to do this for 45k miles now.. its never going back to a dealer again.
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Old December 27th, 2015, 09:19   #38
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I have an appointment monday to spend my Goodwill money on a Stage 2 Malone Tune, I pretty much only have to pay the shop fee out of pocket, so bout $150ish

keeping the dpf for now, when I get some vacation property secured I'll just register it there, delete dpf and pay for an update.

cant wait, been wanting to do this for 45k miles now.. its never going back to a dealer again.
What about the DSG tune?

In other words. How is it just going to cost ~150 over the 550 price of the tune? I assume you're not doing DSG?

I hear it's required.
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Old December 27th, 2015, 12:10   #39
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DSG Tune? lol no, I only own manual transmissions.. partly for reasons like this.
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Old December 27th, 2015, 12:19   #40
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What about the DSG tune?

In other words. How is it just going to cost ~150 over the 550 price of the tune? I assume you're not doing DSG?

I hear it's required.

You can get a stage 2 without the DSG tune but it will be torque limited so you are losing out on the full experience of the engine tune.
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Old December 28th, 2015, 13:42   #41
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tuned, I got better mpg driving home romping on it then I did lollygagging it to boulder for the tune.. had 40mpg when I got to the shop and 42mpg when I got home.

did not get to play that much with it, a mere 40 miles and the roads are pretty crappy and wet.. I tried to mash the pedal down and it just spun and hit the real redline in the first two gears.. I did see a bit of torque steer making a left across traffic, dont recall that ever happening before.. the most dramatic thing I noticed before I got out of the lot, no hesitation anymore.. that alone is worth a tune imo.

Apikol Malone Stage 2'd me, did a good job but were a little afraid that dieselgate might force me back.. thanks but this car will never see a dealer after today and i'll put my money on that.

also thank you VWOA for picking up most of the tab.. I activated my card on the way to the tuner, and discarded it in his trash soon after.
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Old December 28th, 2015, 17:07   #42
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Can they install the Malone tune through the OBD port, without cracking open the ECU? Or does the ECU still need to be removed and opened up?
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Old December 28th, 2015, 18:06   #43
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I've had the Malone 1.5 for about 25,000 miles now with no problem, and the car is always fun to drive (I have the 6 sp std transmission). I put it on the dyno (dynojet) after the tune was done and got 162 hp and 293 tq. I average about 44-45 MPG on mostly two lane rural roads. I love driving this car, but have to fight my wife for possession. She loves it as much as I do.



I'm waiting for VW to notify me of the fix for their EPA cheating and if I understand what's happening all they need to do with my 2014 JSW is adjust the software. I've contacted the technician who installed my 1.5 tune and he said that for another $100 he would reinstall the tune after VW made their changes, which would bring me back to where I am now. But I think I'll just pay the extra and go for the Malone 2.0 tune and now I just need to decide if I want to do the delete also. In my county they only smog vehicles when you buy or sell, and I'll be keeping my little JSW for many years so smogging is not a problem.



I'll be spending some time on this forum to eveluate the pros and cons of the 2.0 tune with and without deleting.

Why would you want to update to VW's new "fix" and chance a loss of perform ace and MPG? I'd say stay as-is.
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Old December 30th, 2015, 15:25   #44
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Hello,

I'd consider "the fix" if doing so would keep me off big brother's radar. It's tough to be certain until the fix comes out and we see what the EPA or the states choose to do regarding enforcement of the fix.

I think having a cloned ECU is a great idea. VW can "fix" the factory ECU and then the owner can return the clone to service.

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Old December 31st, 2015, 19:06   #45
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Personally big Brother can KMA !!! The clone idea is sweet if you have the ability , I learned the hard way with a Smarty programmer for Cummins updates are a one way street sometimes, No way back for the poor !!!! JMO
Best of luck to you but with the all eyes on VW today I'd be VERY Skeptical of the fix !!!
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