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VW MKVI-A6 Golf family including Jetta SportWagen (~ 2010-2014) Discussions area for A6/MkVI (2010-2014) Golf and Golf Wagons (Jetta Sportwagon in the USA).

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Old May 10th, 2018, 09:44   #2146
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Two of the five I have ever seen bad (which is a very low total number) were 2014s, both with 160k miles on them, both owned by the same fleet company.
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Old May 10th, 2018, 10:09   #2147
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Two of the five I have ever seen bad (which is a very low total number) were 2014s, both with 160k miles on them, both owned by the same fleet company.
Thanks for the reply! 2/5 that's 40%, and to get so many in a small sample size indicates that this is a very real and prevalent issue.
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Old May 10th, 2018, 10:38   #2148
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Seems pretty rare to me. I can rattle off a half dozen other things I have seen WAY more often. 5 cars out of.... shoot, no idea how many hundred of CR TDIs I used to see regularly. Mostly gone now.
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Old May 10th, 2018, 11:55   #2149
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Seems pretty rare to me. I can rattle off a half dozen other things I have seen WAY more often. 5 cars out of.... shoot, no idea how many hundred of CR TDIs I used to see regularly. Mostly gone now.
What else have you seen? So most people have turned them in.

I am worried of keeping it with a potential future hpfp issue.
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Old May 10th, 2018, 11:59   #2150
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With the updated warranty coming from the fix, the hpfp is finally covered. I'm less worried now.
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Old September 16th, 2018, 18:53   #2151
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I was not so worried about my HPFP either as I got the modification on my car at 75,000 and the VW web site said i had an extended warranty to 129,000. My check engine light came on and i was not able to get it to stay off myself and so took my TDI to the dealer. The service Advisor told me, they new exactly what was happening to my car and and proceeded to tell me that there was metal filings in my fuel and that VW would not cover/honor the warranty because i did not have a "Fuel Guard Kit" installed on my car.

My advice to any TDI owner if you do not have this Fuel Guard Kit on your car is to find one and put it on your car.

I now have a 2012 VW Jetta Sportwagon that i can not use that only has 91,000 miles on it. I did not think that the HPFP was out when i took it in, as all the failures that i had read about showed immediate and no warning with a Check Engine light.

Hope all will spread this about the Fuel Guard Kit. I did find three of them but no use to me now.

So i am all for filing or being part of a class action law suit about the failures of the HPFP.



My car still runs, but i am not going to drive it until I get it fixed.

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Old October 8th, 2018, 20:51   #2152
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Up date from my last post. I still advice every one that has a warranty on there VW that if they do not have the "Fuel Guard Kit" installed on there car, to get one and install it your self. That is the reason that VW used to deny the warranty on my car.



Okay for the update and this is important if you think you car has a warranty and do not have the Fuel Guard Kit installed, and your HPFP fails, you may never get the warranty due that VW says they have on your car.



In my case i feel that Dealer was on my side and seemed like they wanted to honor the warranty but told me that VW would not honor there warranty. So I called VW and the guy i talked to said positively they would not honor the warranty because there was no "Fuel Guard Kit" installed on my car.

I also called an attorney that I found (not sure how) that worked on the case against VW. It took about 2 weeks or longer, i was buying a new car when i got a call from the service Manger at the Dealer telling me that VW was honoring the warranty. This was the best news i had herd in years.

The service manager also told me that if the HPFP had failed and no Check Engine Light warning me, that VW would not had covered my warranty. But because the warranty covers almost or everything about the CEL, that they were going to warranty my car. I was thrilled.

But this is also giving any one with one of these cars under warranty, they if they do not have the "Fuel Guard Kit" installed on there car, you are likely to lose your warranty if you have a HPFP failure. Hope every one that reads this will spread this information about the Fuel Guard Kit.
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Old December 14th, 2018, 23:02   #2153
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Tonight I was making my regular 200 mile home from my office. When I left the office I had over a half a tank of diesel so I knew I did not need to stop for fuel. About 130 miles into the journey my car started losing power and the glow plug light started flashing. I pulled over to the shoulder of the highway and the engine stalled. Regular engine temp, a little over 1/4 of a tank of fuel remaining, no odd smells, etc...

I checked the engine oil and referenced owners manual. Engine control malfunction was the cause of the flashing glow plug light. I attempted another start and the engine acted like it was out of fuel?? How could that be the guage showed fuel..

I called a tow truck and had it pulled in. Service advisory hopped in the car to place into neutral to let it roll off the flatbed wrecker. I saw the low fuel light and empty fuel guage reading and asked him what is going on?

Has any else had a sticky fuel guage sending unit?? This is gonna make me puke if they have to replace the fuel system and possibly the engine,.
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Old December 17th, 2018, 10:20   #2154
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My post-fix 2013 CPO JSW TDI DSG threw a CEL light last night after fill up. I've only owned this car for a month and a half, currently has ~48.5K miles. I fueled up at a high traffic high volume location right off the highway. Car still ran fine, the only issue was the light.

Took it to my dealer this morning, after a while they told me the whole fuel system was going to be replaced and they were putting me in a loaner. I went back to get the car seat out and talked to the Tech. He showed me the photos he had on his phone of the metal shavings and rust in the HPFP and clogging the screen. They also did the on-site fuel analysis and said it failed, but the tech did say it's just a sniffer test that only gives a pass/fail (no numerical analysis). I have photo'd every fuel receipt and kept a log of fuel-ups.

Good news, they said it's warrantied, 100% covered. No issues for me.

I do, however, have a question regarding the post HPFP/CR/injector/fuel system replacement. Should I worry about any post fix issues? Has anyone had issues with the replacement HPFP? Is it a direct part replacement, or has VW updated the CP4?

Thanks in advance.
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Old December 17th, 2018, 11:50   #2155
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I have just changed the fuel filter (2010 TDI) and in the process removed the housing, emptied the fuel and cleaned it very well. After 211,000 miles and 8 years later, there were some sort of brownish looking stuff at the bottom. However, I have not seen metal pieces (on the filter or in the housing) and the car starts/runs pretty good. So the original HPFP has served me pretty well so far, and hope it continues the same way in many thousand miles I plan on putting on this car. I would say with relative ease that one of the best car I have ever owned.
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Old December 19th, 2018, 19:05   #2156
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My post-fix 2013 CPO JSW TDI DSG threw a CEL light last night after fill up. I've only owned this car for a month and a half, currently has ~48.5K miles. I fueled up at a high traffic high volume location right off the highway. Car still ran fine, the only issue was the light.

Took it to my dealer this morning, after a while they told me the whole fuel system was going to be replaced and they were putting me in a loaner. I went back to get the car seat out and talked to the Tech. He showed me the photos he had on his phone of the metal shavings and rust in the HPFP and clogging the screen. They also did the on-site fuel analysis and said it failed, but the tech did say it's just a sniffer test that only gives a pass/fail (no numerical analysis). I have photo'd every fuel receipt and kept a log of fuel-ups.

Good news, they said it's warrantied, 100% covered. No issues for me.

I do, however, have a question regarding the post HPFP/CR/injector/fuel system replacement. Should I worry about any post fix issues? Has anyone had issues with the replacement HPFP? Is it a direct part replacement, or has VW updated the CP4?

Thanks in advance.


Update. Car fixed by VW in two days. Warranty repair with no issues. I was put in a new 2019 Passat Wolfsburg. It was just OK. I hated the automatic slush box, the engine felt anemic, and the steering was lifeless. Glad to have my JSW back.


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Old December 25th, 2018, 22:35   #2157
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Tonight I was making my regular 200 mile home from my office. When I left the office I had over a half a tank of diesel so I knew I did not need to stop for fuel. About 130 miles into the journey my car started losing power and the glow plug light started flashing. I pulled over to the shoulder of the highway and the engine stalled. Regular engine temp, a little over 1/4 of a tank of fuel remaining, no odd smells, etc...
I checked the engine oil and referenced owners manual. Engine control malfunction was the cause of the flashing glow plug light. I attempted another start and the engine acted like it was out of fuel?? How could that be the guage showed fuel..
I called a tow truck and had it pulled in. Service advisory hopped in the car to place into neutral to let it roll off the flatbed wrecker. I saw the low fuel light and empty fuel guage reading and asked him what is going on?
Has any else had a sticky fuel guage sending unit?? This is gonna make me puke if they have to replace the fuel system and possibly the engine,.
Update my fuel system was replaced under HPFP TSB. There was metal shavings found in the fuel filter housing and a loose fuel line underhood. This was possibly reinstalled improperly after emission recall by selling dealer??

Who knows??....but it is running great since.

3 Days to diagnose and repair. Impressed with repairing dealer, will go back for any dealer required service work.
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