thebigarniedog
Master of the Obvious
One more time. It is hard for some people to accept the truth. Most are blinded by their own set of beliefs that override reality. Reality will always challenge these self imposed blinders and will continue to become inconvenient requiring more fantasy to restore the balance. This seems apparent in most of things we encounter in life and is apparent with VW.
We do not measure environmental standards from the well to the pump. Vehicles running on fossil fuels that get crappy mpg cause more environmental damage then vehicles that obtain higher mpg. It is a simple function of more fuel and resources are needed to deliver more fuel to the gas station to power those crappy mpg vehicles throughout the course of that crappy vehicle's existence.
There are technological limitations to every design. A set of standards were thrown out there that exceeded the ability of car manufacturers to meet, absent additional and expensive technology that would only serve as a temporary satisfaction of those ever increasing standards. People applauded those standards without understanding what they were. They were only interested in one part of the equation. At the same time, those same people cried about the cost that those standards added to their desired vehicle.
VW apparently pursued a strategy to maintain a low price on their diesel vehicles, rather than price them as a premium plus vehicle similar to what the truck industry does for their diesel vehicles. It means super profits for the diesel truck industry, but also pays for the additional equipment needed to remain 50 State legal. Yes they receive relief from those standards based on their weight class. That said, the market both new and used maintains that super premium for a diesel F350 over the gas F350 and no gas F350 owner does not secretly hate the fact they didn't buy the diesel.
So yes, it is VW's fault. They tried to please everyone: the regulators with the cheating software that didn't require expensive additional equipment; the enthusiast who want a diesel car for dirt cheap (who also hold their nose up at their gas brethren); the dealerships that charged an obscene market adjusted price when the 2009 was launched; and their stockholders whose shares exploded in value just a few years back. Finally, this club saw an explosion of new members with the continuation of the tdi line, rather then be relegated to the Pennock Fiero Forum status of an obsolete technology and dwindling membership.
In the end, the idiom is too the effect that success has a thousand fathers, yet failure is an orphan. So if you want to know who was at fault and who knew or should have known, look in the mirror. Seems kindov obvious ........
We do not measure environmental standards from the well to the pump. Vehicles running on fossil fuels that get crappy mpg cause more environmental damage then vehicles that obtain higher mpg. It is a simple function of more fuel and resources are needed to deliver more fuel to the gas station to power those crappy mpg vehicles throughout the course of that crappy vehicle's existence.
There are technological limitations to every design. A set of standards were thrown out there that exceeded the ability of car manufacturers to meet, absent additional and expensive technology that would only serve as a temporary satisfaction of those ever increasing standards. People applauded those standards without understanding what they were. They were only interested in one part of the equation. At the same time, those same people cried about the cost that those standards added to their desired vehicle.
VW apparently pursued a strategy to maintain a low price on their diesel vehicles, rather than price them as a premium plus vehicle similar to what the truck industry does for their diesel vehicles. It means super profits for the diesel truck industry, but also pays for the additional equipment needed to remain 50 State legal. Yes they receive relief from those standards based on their weight class. That said, the market both new and used maintains that super premium for a diesel F350 over the gas F350 and no gas F350 owner does not secretly hate the fact they didn't buy the diesel.
So yes, it is VW's fault. They tried to please everyone: the regulators with the cheating software that didn't require expensive additional equipment; the enthusiast who want a diesel car for dirt cheap (who also hold their nose up at their gas brethren); the dealerships that charged an obscene market adjusted price when the 2009 was launched; and their stockholders whose shares exploded in value just a few years back. Finally, this club saw an explosion of new members with the continuation of the tdi line, rather then be relegated to the Pennock Fiero Forum status of an obsolete technology and dwindling membership.
In the end, the idiom is too the effect that success has a thousand fathers, yet failure is an orphan. So if you want to know who was at fault and who knew or should have known, look in the mirror. Seems kindov obvious ........
