str1ck
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If the condition of our cars doesn't matter at trade in, I expect to see some funky painted cars at the dealership when I go to sell mine back!!!
I will take the fix, but if they cant fix 1st gen and force a buyback, I am gutting my car and returning it. I will take out the seats and build my own office chair with it (always wanted one of those car seat ones). Anything else of value I can keep?Or even beyond purposely defacing your car, what if it is not in running condition? Can you tow it in? Or what about someone out there with body damage, or other mechanical issues....will those be accepted?
oh...good idea.I will take the fix, but if they cant fix 1st gen and force a buyback, I am gutting my car and returning it. I will take out the seats and build my own office chair with it (always wanted one of those car seat ones). Anything else of value I can keep?
Guess I will be Fred Flintstone for a day.Well, there is this:
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For any Eligible Owner with an Eligible Vehicle that is Operable as of the date set by the Court for consumers to opt out of the Class Action or the Effective Date, whichever is earlier, but which ceases to be Operable before the vehicle can be brought in for a Buyback,upon submission of an Eligible Owner’s complete and valid claim application pursuant to Section XIII and surrender of all right, title, and interest in, and possession of, the Eligible Vehicle to Defendant at a Volkswagen Dealer (or other entity authorized by Defendant), Defendant shall pay Eligible Owner Non-Operable Restitution to the Eligible Owner. If an Eligible Owner does not possess title to the Eligible Vehicle, for title to the Eligible Vehicle to be transferred to Defendant, the Eligible Owner and Defendant must complete the steps required by Subsection G.1 and the claim application pursuant to Section XIII.
But I can't find anywhere what "Non-Operable Restitution" is.
And "Non Operable" by their definintion of "Operable", is
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“Operable” means that the vehicle so described can be driven under its own 2.0*liter TDI engine power. A vehicle is not Operable if it had a branded title of “Assembled,” “Dismantled,” “Flood,” “Junk,” “Rebuilt,” “Reconstructed,” or “Salvaged” on September 18, 2015, and was acquired by any person or entityfrom a junkyard or salvage yard after September 18, 2015.
It does not, however, make any reference to appearance or condition. Apparently it just has to get there under its own power.
If it's going to the crusher, what difference does it make?Call me a wet paper bag, but this is a stupid idea. Act like adults, treat the cars as you normally would. I can't think of anything my immature than trashing a vehicle simply because you feel like you won't have to pay for the damage done.
They can probably sell them in Mexico. Their emissions will float right back up into California.If it's going to the crusher, what difference does it make?
"can be driven under its own 2.0 liter TDI engine power"Guess I will be Fred Flintstone for a day.
Nope, not unless if there's an approved fix. There are references to this in the settlement papers.They can probably sell them in Mexico. Their emissions will float right back up into California.
No they can't. That's all been covered.......the judge made it clear that he wouldn't allow VW to just export our problem.They can probably sell them in Mexico. Their emissions will float right back up into California.
They will be art cars.....no one will ever knowNo they can't. That's all been covered.......the judge made it clear that he wouldn't allow VW to just export our problem.
Yeah, disguised.....I see. LOLThey will be art cars.....no one will ever know
No cars will go to MexicoThey can probably sell them in Mexico. Their emissions will float right back up into California.
"can be driven under its own 2.0 liter TDI engine power"
You'll need a 1.0 liter bottle on each foot.
Signed. But I think this is not the right avenue. Wouldn't it be better to mass submit this to the courts as consumer feedback?This is in another thread, but for an administration that at least pays lip service to being green, the crushing terms of the settlement are anything but green. Lots of carbon footprint went into fabrication, manufacturing and delivery and there are lots of worse emitting vehicles on the road. Please consider signing this white house petition
seeking to introduce a TDI for clunkers program for low income people to swap TDIs for old vehicles at little or no cost.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/tdis-clunkers-make-vw-trade-out-fuel-efficient-tdis-cannot-be-fixed-worse-polluting-clunkers
It sticks it to VW by closing a market for new vehicles that crushing would otherwise create, and it improves the nation's fleet, at least by a little bit and won't cost the taxpayer a red cent (unlike the Cash for Clunkers fiasco of yore). Require VW to provide service/maintainence for at least 50k miles or so. Punish the company, not the car.
Condition is a zero issueOr even beyond purposely defacing your car, what if it is not in running condition? Can you tow it in? Or what about someone out there with body damage, or other mechanical issues....will those be accepted?
I LOVE this ideaI say set one up for Chump racing or lemon like I run
run the thing for 2 years then let them buy it back. I own a 2009 with 250K on it so I will get like $7900 . It would be like VW paid me to race for 2 years.
Oh man.. Thanks for the laugh.Obviously, the environment is a low priority for those that want to sabotage their cars before selling it back. I'm surprised that you people even bought a TDI in the first place. Was it purely for selfish reasons of paying less for fuel? Seriously, why did you buy a TDI if you want to dump it after only a few years of ownership? Do you buy $5 bottled water at whole foods to be healthy and then burn the plastic in your backyard or something? I'm really perplexed by the sentiment of a lot of people on this forum.
Oh man.. Thanks for the laugh.
I bought mine because i can get over 300tq and 45mpg after I stripped off the EGR, Catalytic converter and DPF