Which Timing Belt Kit?

Savageman69 · Mar 7, 2008

I am in need of ordering my timing belt kit. Whos is the best. I see that bleached bora has a A4 VE 100,000 Mile Deluxe Timing Belt Kit which includes coolant and a brass water pump...anyone know the importance of brass vs aluminum i just want to buy the best kit money really doesnt matter to much id rather have my engine in best possible condition. Thanks guys

Marchmen · Mar 7, 2008

I've had the kit from Precision Tuning installed on my Golf and New Beetle this past year - no complaints so far. (He'll even order other parts if you want to add on to the kit)

OmegaRenegade · Mar 7, 2008

I was told to take the aluminum impeller vs the Brass - when i asked why i was told "cause its better"

Uberhare · Mar 7, 2008

Savageman69 said:
I am in need of ordering my timing belt kit. Whos is the best. I see that bleached bora has a A4 VE 100,000 Mile Deluxe Timing Belt Kit which includes coolant and a brass water pump...anyone know the importance of brass vs aluminum i just want to buy the best kit money really doesnt matter to much id rather have my engine in best possible condition. Thanks guys

if you are having a mechanic install the kit, buy it from them. That way they have to warranty their work. Customer supplied parts = no warranty. If you are installing it yourself, it doesn't really matter - just buy Canadian and support our own economy first.

Savageman69 · Mar 7, 2008

Dazzler is installing it so no warranty anyway.

Johhny04 · Mar 7, 2008

Dieselgeek.com has a duluxe kit. So does MJM Autohaus. Check these suppliers out too.

RichDiesel · Mar 7, 2008

I suggest either Presision Tuning or Brain at Roseland Technical Sevices. I bought my stuff from Brian. All top notch stuff. Almost 40K since the install by DieselDazzler, and no problems.

craig01b · Mar 7, 2008

Savageman, order it from Roseland, unless the others will ship. Cost of shipping is offset by the fact their is no PST since he is out of Province.

Ordered a ton of stuff from him, and no problems. top notch stuff.

Craig

george_o25 · Mar 7, 2008

I was at Frisco the other day and they quoted the deluxe kit with water pump - all german parts for $300.

Uberhare · Mar 7, 2008

george_o25 said:
I was at Frisco the other day and they quoted the deluxe kit with water pump - all german parts for $300.

Ok I know I said anywhere....Let me rephrase that, ANYWHERE BUT FRISCO's!!

Johhny04 · Mar 8, 2008

Uberhare said:
Ok I know I said anywhere....Let me rephrase that, ANYWHERE BUT FRISCO's!!

Agree with Uberhare, unless you wanna buy the German UAP/NAPA version of parts

Precisiontuning · Mar 9, 2008

I have the T-belt kits in stock. If interested Shipping any where in ontario is flat fee of $10 regardless of size of the order.

1- Gate long life belt
2- All rollers are made by INA
3- Tensioner made by Litens Canada
4- Seals and Hardware are all original VW
5- water pump is made by Hapu (Metal)

Unless you want to walk to VW dealership this is as Original as it gets.

by the way roller, belt and tensioner are the updated long life version.

petea4 · Mar 11, 2008

Precisiontuning said:
1- Gate long life belt
2- All rollers are made by INA
3- Tensioner made by Litens Canada
4- Seals and Hardware are all original VW
5- water pump is made by Hapu (Metal)

What would be the time interval? I was there couple weeks back and bought a TB kit/bushings/oil/plugs etc.... Everything is installed, there were no issues.

Thanks,
Pete

Precisiontuning · Mar 12, 2008

petea4 said:
What would be the time interval? I was there couple weeks back and bought a TB kit/bushings/oil/plugs etc.... Everything is installed, there were no issues.

Thanks,
Pete

They are rated for 100K miles or 160K KM. However; you should inspect your timing belt every 20K for abnormal wear or noise.

GD · Mar 12, 2008

Any differences between the Hepu & Geba water pumps?

Precisiontuning · Mar 12, 2008

Different brands. Geba is normaly $10 cheaper than Hepu or Graf brands. It is not as popular as Hepu or Graf

GD · Mar 12, 2008

Precisiontuning said:
Different brands. Geba is normaly $10 cheaper than Hepu or Graf brands. It is not as popular as Hepu or Graf

I guess either of the 3 are as good as each other with metal impellers.

Toronto_Vento · Mar 12, 2008

petea4 said:
What would be the time interval? I was there couple weeks back and bought a TB kit/bushings/oil/plugs etc.... Everything is installed, there were no issues.

Thanks,
Pete

Earlier model MKIV TDIs have a different belt than the later ones. I can't remember which year the change occured in. It's just a matter of installing one or two extra parts, and you can put in the longer life belt. The 160Kkm rating is for a manual transmission.

petea4 · Mar 12, 2008

Sweet 160K.

I bought the car at auction while VW credit was liquidating. Had 118, and was unsure if the belt was done. Did the belt at 125, and have now done another at 225. So another 160K sounds great.

Pete

rob2001 · Mar 13, 2008

Precisiontuning said:
They are rated for 100K miles or 160K KM. However; you should inspect your timing belt every 20K for abnormal wear or noise.

Do you install??

Mississauga-Dude · Mar 17, 2008

Savageman69 said:
I am in need of ordering my timing belt kit. Whos is the best. I see that bleached bora has a A4 VE 100,000 Mile Deluxe Timing Belt Kit which includes coolant and a brass water pump...anyone know the importance of brass vs aluminum i just want to buy the best kit money really doesnt matter to much id rather have my engine in best possible condition. Thanks guys

Why not just go to VW Dealership to be certain?

Mississauga-Dude · Mar 17, 2008

petea4 said:
Sweet 160K.

I bought the car at auction while VW credit was liquidating. Had 118, and was unsure if the belt was done. Did the belt at 125, and have now done another at 225. So another 160K sounds great.

Pete

When you don't have the service record of last timing belt-change of used diesel, get it done asap so you can start your own schedule. Too risky and costly to guess interval of timing belt change.

ymz · Mar 17, 2008

Mississauga-Dude said:
Why not just go to VW Dealership to be certain?

Are you serious ???

They'll only replace a 64,000/96,000 km belt with another 64,000/96,000 km belt... and overcharge you for the privilege...

Yuri.

petea4 · Mar 17, 2008

Mississauga-Dude said:
When you don't have the service record of last timing belt-change of used diesel, get it done asap so you can start your own schedule. Too risky and costly to guess interval of timing belt change.

Ahh.. that's exactly what i did. Bought the car, checked at the dealer if the TB was done. Nothing. So i did the TB right away. Just did it for a second time couple weeks back.

Pete

beartots · May 20, 2008

I have been wondering this as well, I don't know which Timing Belt Kit is better.

I'm torn between the KERMATDI and DIESELGEEK.

Link to KermaTDI
-http://www.kermatdi.com/servlet/-strse-121/A4-100%2C000-mile-Complete/Detail
Link to DieselGeek
- http://www.dieselgeek.com/servlet/Detail?no=349

Can any of the GURU's out there shed some light on this???

LNXGUY · May 20, 2008

Why not pick up a kit from Precision or Roseland Technical Services?

Support your Canadian Vendors.

ymz · May 20, 2008

Both Kerma & Dieselgeek (and Metal Man and Bora Parts and TDI Parts) provide first class parts and service...

But what's wrong with shopping on this side of the border ???

http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/roseland/VWPartsA4.htm (add a serpentine belt) and http://www.precisiontuning.ca/ are very much respected and appreciated around here...

Yuri.

Precisiontuning · May 20, 2008

here is a little inside info.

Every retailor in North america gets their parts from 2 main suppliers. These 2 supliers both carry exact same parts which get to them through same importer.

As long as the Rollers are made by INA, Tensioner made by Litens, belt made by conti or Gates they all come from same source.

No supplier carries the old stuff any more. I can not even get the old style belt or tensioner even if I pay more. (Unless you call dealer offcourse)

So as long as you are getting these brands then it does not matter who sells it. They all come through same supplier.

As far as Water pump goes I have had no issues with Graf and Hepu. I have sold 500 to 1000 of these water pumps in past 4 years without a single return. That is good enough reason to carry these 2 brands only.

craig01b · May 20, 2008

Yup, support the Canadian guys....both precision and Brian come highly reccomended...

Craig

beartots · May 20, 2008

I decided not to rack my brain and read all the posts regarding my timing belt. I just called up the boys at H2Sport and they are doing all the work for me. They are ordering all the parts and doing all the work. Warrenty was my concern and since they are doing it all, they'll make sure everything is working good as new.

I took it to H2Sport because no one responded to my looking for a reputable TDi mechanic in the GTA thread from a month ago.

Does anyone have any comments regarding my choices?

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