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Old April 5th, 2018, 20:39   #2221
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If you look at the Noack Volatility value for the Amsoil European Car Formula 5W-30 Improved ESP oil, it is hard to conclude that it is mostly Group III. The same can be said of the Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30.
Agreed. They both likely contain a large percentage of PAO base stock. There are plenty of group iii synthetic oils that will equal or outperform many group iv synthetic oils in our application anyhow.
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If you look at the Noack Volatility value for the Amsoil European Car Formula 5W-30 Improved ESP oil, it is hard to conclude that it is mostly Group III. The same can be said of the Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30.
I will look.

Th Amsoil in question probably is alot of PAO since it is $13 a quart and uses manufacturers OCI's. Amsoil's claim to fame is the 25k intervals and that's why the extra money for their top tier oils. They now also have lower price point oils that are class III and the price reflects it. This is equivalent to the other boutique oils, Red Line, Motul etc. except they use an ester/pao base. The Mobil info is even less forthcoming than the Amsoil as to what is in it. Synthetic base stocks is a catchall for many of these products and doesn't explain the type of base oils at all.
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