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Old February 1st, 2012, 16:20   #31
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505.01 and 5w40 are not VW specific specs.
Yeah, ummm...

The "505.01" IS a VW/AUDI Specification - It is a Mfg Specification by the engineers in Europe that designed the engine. The 5W40 Part is an international standard (SAE International) Due to the details of 505.01 -

The Majority of the 505.01 Oils are 5w40 and almost all of the 505.01 Oils were 5w40 when the spec was first released. Currently, there are a number of 5W30 Oils that meet 505.01 - and some of them are available in the USA - Valvoline SynPower 5W30 MST, which is only sold in 50+ Gallon Drums, and is available at many Valvoline Quick Lube type places as well as at some VW Dealerships, is VW Approved to 505.01 - Jiffy Lube can get sometimes get Shell Helix Diesel Ultra VA, which is approved to 505.01 as well. AS far as VW Warranty is concerned, just need to use an oil that meets the specification for the Engine in the ca.

Also, since there was discussion above about Valavoline SynPower 5W40....

If you can find the Valvoline SynPower 5W40 - It is VW/AUDI Approved Oil for 505.01 Specification (Approved by VW/AUDI -- and not just a claim by Valvoline- It is on the list) - I don't shop Wally World often, but the few times I have shopped there the Valvoline 5W40 was not on the shelf... Most NAPA Stores carry it, or can get it in a day or two....


Would the Rotella T6 5W40pass formal approval testing if tested by VW/AUDI??? Who knows - it seems to be really good oil based on testing and usage by people here on this forum...

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Old February 1st, 2012, 16:42   #32
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Ah, but is it Valvoline or VW that says it meets it? If it is certified by VW, all well and good. But if it is just a marketing claim by Valvoline, then not.

I'll look into the Liqui Moly and Pentosin availability/pricing at my local NAPA, but I suspect I'll end up staying with T6.
YES, Valvoline 5W40 Synpower, the one available in the USA, is on the VW/Audi Approved List - it was approved in August 2007 (formal approval letter from VW, Wolfsburg, Germany, is posted here on this web site somewhere). Note: I don't think it made it on the Nov 2007 Listing, or the JAN 08 Listing, Published by VW/Audi. It was added to later listings.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 17:37   #33
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My .02c on the motorcycle usage:
I use it in my Suzuki SV650 and Kawasaki 650R with great results. I tried it in a sport bike that redlines to 13,500. It didn't sound too happy after a 20 min track session in cool weather. Switched to 10w-40 Mobil synthetic motorcycle oil and it sounded a lot better during a hotter track day. I don't believe it is built for high RPMs.

Great oil for a lot of vehicles. My lawn mower and generator love the stuff. In fact, scientists at NASA are researching T6 in pill form to combat cancer causing radiation in astronauts. Promising results in lab rats.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 05:59   #34
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Yes, I just started using it in a Kawasaki 650R too.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 06:56   #35
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FYi
The clutch spring are weak from the factory. If the clutch starts slipping. It isn't the oil.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 07:01   #36
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. Valvoline Quick Lube type places .. - Jiffy Lube
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Would anyone with an ounce of sense even drive into any quick lube place of any brand?
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 00:11   #37
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Would anyone with an ounce of sense even drive into any quick lube place of any brand?
I am sure that there are some Quick Lube Places out there that do a good job... But, I also think Big Foot exists... Both are still to be proven...
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 04:54   #38
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As for the VW 505.01 specification, that might be a concern during the warranty period but not any more as the warranty period is way past.

Why would you say that? As I understand it the 505.01 specification is really a group of specifications that the engines to which they apply need to protect the engine.

The 10W40 or like number is a measure of the thickness of the oil at specific temperatures.

They are not one or the other, the oil you use needs to meet both specifications for your VW.
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Old February 4th, 2012, 13:01   #39
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My engine will run so much better now.

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I think you might have slightly overfilled it.
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I may stray from my Schaeffer's S9000 (No offense to my friends in St. Louis) and try the Rotella T6 5W40. I picked up a 5 qt jug on special at Autozone on sale some time ago. I can't decide if I want to use it in Mom's Passat 1.8t or my Jetta PD.
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Where are you getting 5 qt. jugs? All I see are 4 qt (1 U.S. gallon).
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Where are you getting 5 qt. jugs? All I see are 4 qt (1 U.S. gallon).
I was wrong. It's a 1 gallon jug.
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1st fill of T6 in my PD this weekend, we'll so how it goes.
I'm right at 100k miles now and have been using M1 TDT lately.
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Old February 8th, 2012, 10:51   #45
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I have always heard from fellow friends/mechanics that rotella is not the greatest oil to use. I will probably run valvoline like I have in all my diesels.
Just my opinion. Worries me that the dealers have stopped using 5w40 though.
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