First Test Drive Article - the 2012 VW Passat TDI
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DSL HED
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Interesting article, but I wonder about the author when he references the engine as a "V-6 turbodiesel". I don't understand how he could make an error like that. Not a horrible looking car. Perhaps a wagon option will show up eventually.
eb2143
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Looks like they already edited it...although it does make you wonder
I think the car is certainly promising based on this first drive; should sell well. Wagon version, please?
I have friends who work for magazines and errors like this creep in all the time. It could have been the author or it could have been the copy-editor (perhaps imagining that a four-cylinder engine was just too small for the Passat).
Nonetheless, I read the magazine regularly and if this is the worst mistake we see, I think it should not matter that much.
Esp. since it looks like it was fixed early on.
Nonetheless, I read the magazine regularly and if this is the worst mistake we see, I think it should not matter that much.
Esp. since it looks like it was fixed early on.
Stealth TDI
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Or maybe the tester was so impressed by the grunt on the TDI he thought he was in a V6?
Condorr
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Stealth TDI
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"It is the only diesel-powered offering in this segment and coupled with a 43 mpg highway fuel rating it can travel up to 795 miles on a full tank of gasoline..." Ooops!
BeetleGo
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I sure hope wagon, that UVoA wagon is reading wagon this thread wagon and sees that there is a desire wagon, for a WAGON! (Not so subtle I know)
torqueit
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Fixed that for you."It is the only diesel-powered offering in this segment and coupled with a 43 mpg highway fuel rating it can travel up to 795 feet on a full tank of gasoline until the HPFP blows" Ooops!
cthomas286
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I have made that drive from Chattanooga to Nashville. It is mostly up and through the mountains so if he was able to get 40 mpg he would probably get 60 coming back.
pakhribas
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The VW of America site now has 'build your own' Passat....! The only downside is that there is not leather interior available in the tdi 6/manual...it's only available with the DSG option.
GTIDan
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Say what??? I copied and pasted the following from his article: The inline-four turbo diesel is the same found in other VW TDI models and it was smooth and responsive.http://www.thedieseldriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/DSC_0813.jpg
Bugdoc
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While it certainly appears to have the goods driving wise, the styling leaves me cold - Forhondayota? Haven't seen it in the flesh however.
The description of the steering reminds me of my old 2008 Passat wagon, which had a very loose and light feel that was a huge consideration towards our trading it in.
The description of the steering reminds me of my old 2008 Passat wagon, which had a very loose and light feel that was a huge consideration towards our trading it in.
DPM
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reading the WHOLE thread, you'd realise that a typo was corrected a few days back...
shipo
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Well that blows; the only Passat I'd be interested in is a full-zoot TDI version with three pedals under the dash.
bluesmoker
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2012 Volkswagen Passat
nice car
http://www.autos.ca/?utm_source=goo...autos_dot_ca&gclid=CNSs9faGs6kCFQkFbAod4G8cLA
For my money, I’d go with the diesel, which completely transforms the Passat driving experience. It has some real punch when you press on the accelerator, noticeably waking up the car. It, too, is quiet and smooth, and additionally the Passat TDI returned a most impressive 4.5 L/100 km at 115 km/h on the highway.
that's better fuel economy than a hybrid without all of the complexity of batteries etc
nice car
http://www.autos.ca/?utm_source=goo...autos_dot_ca&gclid=CNSs9faGs6kCFQkFbAod4G8cLA
For my money, I’d go with the diesel, which completely transforms the Passat driving experience. It has some real punch when you press on the accelerator, noticeably waking up the car. It, too, is quiet and smooth, and additionally the Passat TDI returned a most impressive 4.5 L/100 km at 115 km/h on the highway.
that's better fuel economy than a hybrid without all of the complexity of batteries etc
EJS
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What's missing? Sunroof & nav? I can't see why vw skipped the sunroof w/ a manual, makes little sense. Nav? Not even certain in this day & age why it's still an option at all - the smartphone has pretty much killed off the GPS market.Well that blows; the only Passat I'd be interested in is a full-zoot TDI version with three pedals under the dash.
Given the faster shifting & equal mpg of the DSG I guess they just figure those who want a manual are cheap bastages who aren't interested in options
kjclow
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I was in central and western Canada last week and Nissan is advertising that they have the only non-gasoline car available in Canada. Wonder how they would explain the sales comparison of this new non-gasoline passat to their non-gasoline leaf? I am guessing that the passat will probably sell about 10x the volume of the leaf.
Or the currently sold Jetta and Golf TDI. The claims people are willing to make while ignoring fact.
bikegeek
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yes I am cheap.....the stick please.......
tdi90hp
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snooze.....buy a GOLF, less money, less bulk, easier to fly around, park and get out of in the garage, just as luxurious and tight inside....as good on mileage and way sportier.....and did I say less money? loaded Golf in canada 28-29K ...loade Passat will be 34 maybe? +13% extra tax meh.......and here is the DEALBREAKER....ya cant buy a loaded STICK in NA.....only slushbox DSG that costs another thousand or so every 100,000 miles to maintain and another 1500 bucks to buy at least and an absolute FORTUNE if it calves out of warranty. Big PAPA snoozer car for wide of hip americans and Canucks who rarely travel with 4 people and want the 'bigger car"...cause they can drive it to florida more comfortably to the trailer park.
Ouch! Harsh words for those of us interested in the new Passat. I don't feel as though I belong to the quoted deomgraphic but I am still considering one.
BeetleGo
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My brother really wants one, but I bet he also REALLY wants a sunroof. That could be a deal breaker... Because he REALLY wants a 6-speed manual (in a big car).
Because he REALLY wants a 6-speed manual (in a big car). 
birkie
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Nice. Looks like a very compelling alternative to the Jetta sedan. More refined, better mpg, retains a manual transmission this time, interior isn't half bad vs the European version (though very different). If only they had a wagon, though!
dieselyeti
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Better mpg? Looks to me like it has the same EPA rating. The no sunroof with manual trans issue is bizarre. I just don't understand VW's thinking here. Is the Passat's interior volume that much greater than the Jetta?
wxman
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A Canadian car site reported that they got 4.5 L/100 km (52.3 mpg) on the highway (@ 110 km/hr) in their test of a 2012 Passat TDI.
http://www.autos.ca/first-drives/first-drive-2012-volkswagen-passat/2
http://www.autos.ca/first-drives/first-drive-2012-volkswagen-passat/2
jbright
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Aren't Canadian mpg ratings always higher than EPA scores? 4.5L/100km is the highway average for the Passat TDI (in Canada) according to the article. Looks like the writer was getting the fuel economy he was supposed to.
tdi90hp
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still snoozing here....got a call into my father in law this AM. He is 84 yrs old and looks good for the targetmarket for this car.....Buick is trying to sell him a new LUCERNE. Told him that his SHIP is arriving at the VW store in the Fall and it will get him better mileage and more safety and that it has a huge backseat to take their elderly friends to senior outdoor bowling on sundays.
Warned him he will spent a thousand bucks in the first 4 years servicing his automatic transmission though....you know what his reply was?? I never serviced any transmission for any GM I have ever owned and I have owned over 20 of them. Oh those new granpa and grandma customers VW is trying to get in the VW world are gonna flip at the service mgr when Mr Service advisor tells them that....cause ya know the Sales dept WONT.
Warned him he will spent a thousand bucks in the first 4 years servicing his automatic transmission though....you know what his reply was?? I never serviced any transmission for any GM I have ever owned and I have owned over 20 of them. Oh those new granpa and grandma customers VW is trying to get in the VW world are gonna flip at the service mgr when Mr Service advisor tells them that....cause ya know the Sales dept WONT.
shipo
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Can the DSG shift faster and return similar fuel economy as a true manual transmission? Yes. How does the DSG fair when compared to a true manual in the "Fun" department? Complete and utter failure.What's missing? Sunroof & nav? I can't see why vw skipped the sunroof w/ a manual, makes little sense. Nav? Not even certain in this day & age why it's still an option at all - the smartphone has pretty much killed off the GPS market.
Given the faster shifting & equal mpg of the DSG I guess they just figure those who want a manual are cheap bastages who aren't interested in options
bikegeek
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I don't want to buy a loaded anything, they break and malfunction, you are left with a nice car with a bunch of defective electronics and a engine that is still going fine....