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VW MKVII-Mk7 Golf family including Golf Wagon (~ 2015 +) Discussions area for the Mk7 (2015+) Golf and Golf Wagon TDIs based on the MQB (Modularer Querbaukasten) platform.

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Old November 5th, 2016, 06:06   #1
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My 2015 VW Golf had its water pump go bad at 15K, is this a trend for this years engine?
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Old November 5th, 2016, 15:19   #2
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In a quick search, looks like a few including yourself. Not many of these cars to really gather any good information unfortunately. I'm not too worried myself and I'll be out of warranty in 5k more miles.
Also, these pumps are nothing like the water pumps on the GTIs (at least the MK6s) which failed almost certainly before 100k miles. We had ours replaced in our '13 GTI at 35k miles.
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Old November 5th, 2016, 16:46   #3
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the 2015 model year is the first for a new engine.

the main coolant pump, driven by the timing belt, is controlled by the ECU to turn on or off. fairly complicated for a water pump. also has a couple electric coolant pumps

benefit is faster warm up and more mpg,

drawback may be some early failures as they polish the design.

http://pics3.tdiclub.com/data/517/820433_EA288.pdf

has quite a bit of good reading on your engine,

coolant discussion starts on page 18
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Old November 5th, 2016, 20:21   #4
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My water pump started to leak at 6700 miles. Dealer replaced it under warranty- maybe a bad batch of water pumps? Outside than that, at 15500mi and so far so good...

Im really warming up to the EA288 engine, however, I'll hold judgement until it makes it through its first Michigan winter.

Damn shame so many owners are myopic and are opting for the buy back (to the crusher) on the 2015's.

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Old November 5th, 2016, 23:59   #5
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My water pump got a crack in it after 12k miles
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Old November 6th, 2016, 07:37   #6
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Damn shame so many owners are myopic and are opting for the buy back (to the crusher) on the 2015's.
Are they not fixing the cars for resale rather than disposing? That would be even more environmentally unfriendly to destroy them.


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Old November 6th, 2016, 08:36   #7
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Mine had a small leak that came and went from about 15k to 37k. The dealer couldn't find the problem until I did inadvertently. They replaced it under the powertrain warranty. Also, before they diagnosed it I was told that they've seen a number of bad water pumps on the 2015s.
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The 2015's are not part of the emission mess although there is/was a hold on selling them to the public.
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The 2015's are not part of the emission mess although there is/was a hold on selling them to the public.
Oh, they're definitely included in the mess. We are opting for the fix on the wagon and I'm leaving my golf alone. Though they will likely be far easier/cheaper to bring in line than the '09-'14s. In regards to my previous post, I was almost certain I read that cars would be fixed and resold rather than disposed of. That would make VW look even worse I'm sure!
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Well, I may be adding myself to the list. I've got some loss in the coolant bottle and pink residue directly below my serpentine belt
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The 2015's are not part of the emission mess although there is/was a hold on selling them to the public.
This statement is totally not accurate. if you feel the need to comment on cars more modern than yours, please study up and pay attention.

the 2015 model year came with a new tdi engine, described in the self study document I linked to a couple posts back.

the "emission mess" was revealed in September of 2015, and was preceded by members noting delays in availability of the 2016 model year cars.

VW withdrew the request to certify emissions design which would allow the sale of the 2016 model year TDIs, and have not (as far as we know) tried to get a 2017 model certified.
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For anyone interested, the water pumps are $150 (including $50 core charge) from VW and include gasket and coolant valve solenoid already installed. These pumps also don't use a belt gear as the pulley runs on the backside of the timing belt which I found interesting.

Pump part 04L-121-011-EX
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This statement is totally not accurate. if you feel the need to comment on cars more modern than yours, please study up and pay attention.

the 2015 model year came with a new tdi engine, described in the self study document I linked to a couple posts back.

the "emission mess" was revealed in September of 2015, and was preceded by members noting delays in availability of the 2016 model year cars.

VW withdrew the request to certify emissions design which would allow the sale of the EA288 TDIs, and have not (as far as we know) tried to get a 2016's or 2017 model certified yet.
the latest I heard is the EA288's come with a hold on them but are not really effected by Deiselgate because it is a completely different engine than the 2009 through 2015 engines.More complicated than the BRM or Cr's sure, but not more "Modern" in a good way than my BRM or the retched CR's.
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 04:21   #14
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the latest I heard is the EA288's come with a hold on them but are not really effected by Deiselgate because it is a completely different engine than the 2009 through 2015 engines.More complicated than the BRM or Cr's sure, but not more "Modern" in a good way than my BRM or the retched CR's.

Got it. your 2006 is as complicated as a car should be, and has emissions, power, economy and safety you are satisfied with. all of us who own later cars are fools.
Definition of modern

1 a : of, relating to, or characteristic of the present or the immediate past : contemporary
the 2015 tdi cars with variations of the EA288 engine are referred to as "generation 3" or "GEN 3" in the court documents.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/871306/download

they have tentative fixes described in the document, and are subject to the VW offer to buy-back or "fix" (once/if the fix is approved) with substantial additional compensation for owners or lessees.

Happy New Year, and may your 2006 BRM last forever.
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Old July 28th, 2017, 12:00   #15
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This one at 63k miles - noticed that I had to fill up the reservoir couple of months ago and dealership says its leaking. Probably change the timing belt also.

I had thought of having the fix - now maybe just do the buyback.

Our 2003 Jetta has taken four waterpumps so far.

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