aja8888
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I actually bought starter parts from him in Ireland through e-mail correspondence and he shipped them to me promptly. Great guy to work with!!
How to Rebuild Bosch Starter (SR0408X) 0 001 125 012
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dieselnuts
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I can't get a response from him
Do you have a local starter rebuild shop? I know they can get the parts.
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I have no luck getting parts around here. One guy got me a bushing but that was it.Another guy said leave it and when I said I wanted parts he said he couldn't get them. I need brushes, all bushings, front seal, and a cap that goes on the front. It wouldn't hurt to put in new solenoid contacts too.
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UhOh
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What kind of cranking RPMs are you seeing?
I think that Bentley says 150 or more is OK, but I would think that 200 should be the lower limit. Just kind of wondering what other folks see/experience.
Sorry it took me a while.
The brush box is made by AS #SBH0014
The solenoid is made by DTS #77-27519
I used VCDS to log the engine RPM's, it can't be displayed in one of the blocks if I remeber correctly to get accurate cranking speed while cranking. It went from 250 to like 400 I believe after the rebuild. I think it is in my first post.
So mine went from 231 to 357 after the rebuild, curiosity killed the cat.
231 would start the car just fine, but I had a nuisance jerk of the engine on start up. Replaced all the engine mounts and still was there before finally rebuilding my starter.
I would say any lower than 200 and it might struggle to light off.
UhOh
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Excellent! Thank you.
I would start with Google and eBay and see if that pulled anything up first.
I did I think I can get the brush box but not the solenoid on eBay yet
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I would personally say the cleaning and new solenoid, those solenoids get worn points on them and don't make as good of contact so less current can make it to the brushes.
My brushes weren't worn out after 230k miles, but i bet the starter wasnt used hard ever either.
My brushes weren't worn out after 230k miles, but i bet the starter wasnt used hard ever either.
The starter for my car was a 125 series starter, so I searched for that when looking for parts which may help. I did a few quick searches for the DTS solenoid part number (without using DTS in the search) and found some hits on eBay. Also the Bosch solenoid part number is "085 911 287" and I know they have them on eBay for maybe $50-60.
Thanks
Found them
I didn’t have any part numbers or the series for the starter before
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Links would be helpful
https://www.aspwholesale.com/vehiclepartssearch.html It lists the 1.9L ALH as 116 Cubic Inches.
So the above website seems to have all of the parts..... the 3 bushings, solenoid, and brush box. It comes to $57 shipped.
Does that seem like a good deal?
So the above website seems to have all of the parts..... the 3 bushings, solenoid, and brush box. It comes to $57 shipped.
Does that seem like a good deal?
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steve6
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Good price if you ask me
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I just looked mine up.
One of the various listings was:
"Bosch 368 Series 24 Volt (DD) Direct Drive"
Am I missing a battery in mine??
Also saw gear reduction options?
One of the various listings was:
"Bosch 368 Series 24 Volt (DD) Direct Drive"
Am I missing a battery in mine??
Also saw gear reduction options?
UhOh
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I have a starter apart and am wondering what all I should be focusing on replacing. The starter was spinning a little slow (which is why I pulled it- about 1 1/2 years ago!). Not very dirty at all. Still has a little grease. Brushes look really good, as do the surfaces on the commutator.
What is most likely the cause of the slower cranking (don't recall what the speed was, other than the replacement spun a fair bit faster):
Solenoid wear?
Bushings?
What is most likely the cause of the slower cranking (don't recall what the speed was, other than the replacement spun a fair bit faster):
Solenoid wear?
Bushings?
I would say that I would still polish the commutator and scrap out the grooves.
Also i would put some sort of graphite grease on the bendix as mine has starter squalling again with the high temp bearing grease I put in.
I would also focus on the solenoid as the contacts possibly are worn internally causing extra electrical resistance.
The bushings aren't a must, but maybe check for play with the rotor shaft in each bushing.
Also i would put some sort of graphite grease on the bendix as mine has starter squalling again with the high temp bearing grease I put in.
I would also focus on the solenoid as the contacts possibly are worn internally causing extra electrical resistance.
The bushings aren't a must, but maybe check for play with the rotor shaft in each bushing.
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I would check the wire from the solenoid going inside the starter for corrosion.
A light grease on the armature ends going into the bushings. Not bearing grease that might get thick in cold weather.
Replace the bushings, they should be relatively cheap.
Last, my usual voltage drop test from the battery posts to the solenoid & case.
A voltage drop test across the 2 solenoid posts might have indicated if the contacts were OK or not.
How old is it?
A light grease on the armature ends going into the bushings. Not bearing grease that might get thick in cold weather.
Replace the bushings, they should be relatively cheap.
Last, my usual voltage drop test from the battery posts to the solenoid & case.
A voltage drop test across the 2 solenoid posts might have indicated if the contacts were OK or not.
How old is it?
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A good place for rotation to slow would be current leakage due to carbon in between the plates that the brushes contact. If adjacent coils are being energized, they aren't going to pull as well. Or rather, the leakage will pull against the best placement of the primary coil that is intended to be energized.
Cheers,
PH
Cheers,
PH
UhOh
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Had no buildup and the brushes look great. I used the wrong terminology previously... meant to say that the windings were all clean. The commutator, however, was a little darkened: I lightly sanded.
Really nothing stands out as being questionable, other than the solenoid plunger and the hole it goes in seemed to be a bit crusty (weired coating, kind of rust colored) and slightly scraped.
Rich, I have no idea how old this thing is. It's a ("Bosch SR0408X") re-manufactured unit. Came with/in the car when we bought the car in late 2015.
Probably order bushings, solenoid and brushes. Install the solenoid and brushes (brushes because they're only about $14 and I've got things apart), but don't want to mess with the bushings unless they're really needed. Be nice to know what the acceptable tolerances are for the bushings.
Would brake grease be good? Has graphite and won't get gummy (and can handle heat).
Really nothing stands out as being questionable, other than the solenoid plunger and the hole it goes in seemed to be a bit crusty (weired coating, kind of rust colored) and slightly scraped.
Rich, I have no idea how old this thing is. It's a ("Bosch SR0408X") re-manufactured unit. Came with/in the car when we bought the car in late 2015.
Probably order bushings, solenoid and brushes. Install the solenoid and brushes (brushes because they're only about $14 and I've got things apart), but don't want to mess with the bushings unless they're really needed. Be nice to know what the acceptable tolerances are for the bushings.
Would brake grease be good? Has graphite and won't get gummy (and can handle heat).