CAN Gateway dying??

Sootman

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I seem to get a bunch of strange readings when I do an auto scan with my Vag Com on my 2006.5 Jetta. A number of malfunctions, no connections etc., seem to show up. Other than an ongoing battery drain (half of which is my Delphi radio that was already replaced once), the car runs fine and everything appears to work.
Anyone have any ideas? It also seems like the CAN Gateway or something else is going south.
VCDS Version: Release 805.4
Data version: 20090602
Tuesday,04,August,2009,18:21:30:20631
Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 36 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72
7D
VIN: 3VWDT71K26M030315 Mileage: 85990km/53431miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: Not registered 0011
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Not registered 0011
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AB HW: 028 101 223 8
Component: RC s01e EDC G000SG 7550
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4477415
Coding: 0050071
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0021122
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 BJ HW: 1K0 907 044 BJ
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0909
Revision: 00090016 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 Q HW: 3C0 937 049 Q
Component: Bordnetz-SG H46 1501
Revision: 00H46000 Serial number: 00000000407868
Coding: 15018E1700041501070A00000500000000215D035C0000
Shop #: WSC 01404 444 53924
Part No: 1Q1 955 119 A
Component: Wischer 020208 022 0501
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 01404
No fault code found.
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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 D HW: 8E0 035 593 D
Component: SDAR SIRIUS H03 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7F2033447
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 185
Mileage: 83759 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 14:05:25

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
Component: 6A AIRBAG VW8R 034 8000
Revision: 05034000 Serial number: 003B6D05A79L
Coding: 0013889
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
Part No: 1K0 959 339 F
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0005
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AS HW: 1K0 953 549 AS
Component: J0527 035 0070
Coding: 0002021
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 920 973 D HW: 1K0 920 973 D
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1610
Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4477415
Coding: 0021401
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H12 0150
Revision: H12 Serial number: 31001066231520
Coding: 3D7F036207001002
Shop #: WSC 01404 444 53924
1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 182
Mileage: 85997 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:06:01

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Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
Part No SW: 1K5 919 965 A HW: 1K5 919 965 A
Component: Kompass 005 0003
Revision: 00005000 Serial number: 1293324T20XE01
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
2 Faults Found:
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 216
Mileage: 85713 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:25:47

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 217
Mileage: 85713 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:58:36

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 920 973 D HW: 1K0 920 973 D
Component: IMMO 3HL 1610
Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4477415
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 959 760 C HW: 3C0 959 760 C
Component: Sitzverstellung 1001
Revision: 00004000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
2 Faults Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 Q HW: 1K0 959 793 M
Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1125
Revision: 11006001 Serial number: 00000578068721
Coding: 0001207
Shop #: WSC 01404 444 53924
3 Faults Found:
01811 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Drivers Side (J386)
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 85785 km
Time Indication: 0
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 182
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 222
Mileage: 85735 km
Time Indication: 0

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - -

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
Component: KSG PQ35 RDK 051 0215
Revision: 00051000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 1A900C880186003F2C01048CB08A8F00887F00
Shop #: WSC 01404 444 53924
Component: Sounder n.mounted
Component: NGS n.mounted
Component: IRUE n.mounted
No fault code found.
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 3C0-035-456.lbl
Part No: 1K6 035 456 A
Component: 08K Audioverst. 0005
Revision: 00003000 Serial number: 00000000005618
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 Q HW: 1K0 959 792 M
Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1125
Revision: 11006001 Serial number: 00000624268721
Coding: 0001206
Shop #: WSC 01404 444 53924
3 Faults Found:
01812 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Pass. Side (J387)
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 85785 km
Time Indication: 0
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 182
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 222
Mileage: 85735 km
Time Indication: 0

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 G HW: 1K0 035 180 G
Component: Radio DE2 014 0017
Revision: 00014000 Serial number: VWZ4Z7G2143164
Coding: 0010011
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
No fault code found.
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Address 62: Door,Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q HW: 1K0 959 795 J
Component: J388 TUER-SG HL 1115
Revision: 12004001 Serial number: 00000000240934
Coding: 0001168
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
1 Fault Found:
00934 - Electric Window Motor; Rear Left (V26)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 182
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q HW: 1K0 959 794 J
Component: J389 TUER-SG HR 1115
Revision: 12004001 Serial number: 00000000368031
Coding: 0001168
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
1 Fault Found:
00935 - Electric Window Motor; Rear Right (V27)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 182
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

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Or have I just totally screwed up my coding somehow? Any suggestions?
 

Uwe

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Joined
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Location
Lansdale, PA, USA
Each line that reads "Malfunction" indicate that the Gateway thinks there are one or more fault codes in that module.

Each line that reads "Not Registered" indicates a module that the Gateway knows is there, i.e. can communicate with) but you have told the it via coding doesn't really exist. You can fix these by coding the Gateway properly.

02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated means you haven't paid your Sirius subscription.

The various Electric Window Motor -- No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation codes can probably be cured by "synching" the windows. Run each window all the way down and continue to hold the switch in the down position for more than one second after the window stops. Then run it all the way up and continue to hold the switch in the up position for more than one second after the window stops. Do this twice for each window.

After you've coded the Gateway correctly and synched the windows, clear all the fault codes (preferably in each module that has 'em). The drive the car for a day, re-scan it and see what has come back.

-Uwe-
 

Sootman

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Uwe,
WOW!! Thanks so much, I'll give it a try. Interestingly I upped my Sirius a couple of months ago and it works fine. I am suspect of the radios it draws 1.5 amps even when off. Unless I pull the fuse the car will not start after 24-48 hours. I have also found the fuses for the front and rear door control modules also draw 1-amp continuously even 1/2 hour after shutting off the car having first removed the key.


Steve
 
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Uwe

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Sounds like something is keeping the car from powering down the way it should. I've heard that there may be some Buggy gateway firmware versions out there that can cause this, especially when different radios and such have been retrofit, but I don't have a whole lot of details. Is all your stuff stock? What do you mean by "I upped my Sirius a couple of months ago"?

-Uwe-
 

Sootman

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Uwe said:
Sounds like something is keeping the car from powering down the way it should. I've heard that there may be some Buggy gateway firmware versions out there that can cause this, especially when different radios and such have been retrofit, but I don't have a whole lot of details. Is all your stuff stock? What do you mean by "I upped my Sirius a couple of months ago"?

-Uwe-
I have had Jeff of Rocket Chip retune my car (chip in ECU). The car has Hella HID's and that's about it for upgrades.

As far as the Sirius what I meant was that I had renewed my subscription (upped) several months ago. I added 2 more years to my subscription.

Again thank you. I'll give this a try tomorrow and see how it goes.

Steve
 

Uwe

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I'm not saying this is the source of your problem but there have been reports of aftermarket HIDs causing really strange issues and even outright failures of control modules on Mk.5 cars in Europe.

-Uwe-
 

Sootman

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Uwe said:
I'm not saying this is the source of your problem but there have been reports of aftermarket HIDs causing really strange issues and even outright failures of control modules on Mk.5 cars in Europe.

-Uwe-
Oh oh, I hope the lights are OK. I suppose I could disconnect them and see how the coding goes. I'm still in the process of trying to recode everything today (work keeps getting in the way). I'll let you know how I make out. I may still have a question or two. Thanks again for your help.

Steve
 

Sootman

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Made good progress this afternoon. Followed your instructions and was able to clear all codes (including CAN Gateway and radio). I've driven 100 miles and re-checked, no codes were found.


00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

I'll see how it looks in a few days.

Steve
 

Sootman

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Checked again today and everything looks excellent, again thanks. Now for a couple of tweaks and I'll be all set.

I still need to get the horn to beep when I lock the car (I check this off in long coding and the new coding is accepted) but the horn still doesn't beep when locking and when I go back it's unchecked again. I'll bet there's something I need to check.

Also looking for how to get the passenger side mirror to lower when I put the car in reverse. It used to work, before I goofed up the coding. I have it checked off in long coding but no luck so far. If I remember correctly I'd have to clear some memory or do something else before it'll work. Ideas?

Thanks
 
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