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Old January 21st, 2018, 04:59   #16
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Location: USA

ok, so here is where I'm at now.
After it quit running about 10 days ago I thought since the last 30 seconds of running it would start to flutter, then die the problem could be related to the tandem pump, maybe sucking air?? (it was leaking fuel and leaking oil from the vacuum nipple anyway) so I replaced the TP.

Now I still can't get it to start at all.
I have a tool, it's a fuel cap that will let me put a few PSI of air pressure in the fuel tank, I use it on other diesels to help bleed the air out when I have the fuel system opened up.
So with some air pressure on the fuel tank it should have fuel to the engine.

What PID's should I be looking at on the scanner to diagnose this?
Any ideas?

It does have a new cam sensor and crank sensor.
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Old January 23rd, 2018, 19:47   #17
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Is the starter turning, but the engine won't catch? Are you getting rpms while cranking? If not, the crank sensor may not be fully/ firmly seated on a clean surface. Check it and the connection.
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Old February 26th, 2018, 09:10   #18
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Location: Aurora, CO
TDI(s): 2005
Default Same issues - 05 TDI

Starts, no issues. Throws no codes/cel on dash.

But will die after warming. A little bit of sputter if you slow down or left off gas - as a certain complete stop of the engine if under 30 mph.

Cannot restart once hot/warm. Will crank and crank.

20 minutes of cooling off - starts first try. So Frustrating!

Is it:
Tandem Pump
Crank Position Sensor
Relay over heating...

How can I check these without VACOM nor the $$ to replace all the parts one a t a time?
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Old February 26th, 2018, 09:29   #19
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Toolmmangary, are you saying it will not start after replacing the TP? if so, you probably have not cranked long enough. It takes a while to get primed again after replacing the TP.

Did you ever check your lift pump is actually working?
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Old February 26th, 2018, 09:33   #20
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kevintoups, 2 no cost things to check.

1. As suggested earlier in this thread, remove the 219 relay and the black cover from the relay, then check the contacts for corrosion
2. Follow the CPS wire to the firewall where IIRC it is a quick connect gray plug. While the engine is running, wiggle it. If the engine dies, you have found the problem.
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Old February 27th, 2018, 08:29   #21
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Will attempt both and get back a status. Thank you much vwztips.
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