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Old December 18th, 2017, 04:25   #16
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I'd suggest adding a thermostat to your kit if it doesn't contain one. It is an inexpensive part and takes additional 5-10 minutes to do while you are there. Thermostats also age and degrade with time and heat cycles.
not so much on this car.

(cost or time)
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Old December 18th, 2017, 04:44   #17
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I'd suggest adding a thermostat to your kit if it doesn't contain one. It is an inexpensive part and takes additional 5-10 minutes to do while you are there. Thermostats also age and degrade with time and heat cycles.
This is not true. Not even close.
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Old December 18th, 2017, 06:58   #18
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Hopefully Santa is bringing me a set or triple squares for Xmas. I learned about those SOBs while replacing my rear rotors and pads. I believe I shreaded 2 1/4" drives then stripped the bolts, trying to remove the driver's side caliper.

Sounds like all I need is to budget 1.5 days sometime in the spring.

Thanks for the advice all!
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Old December 18th, 2017, 12:51   #19
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This is not true. Not even close.
Oh, I guess that engine has got the "famous flange style t-stat":
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...31&postcount=7

Yeah, that's a pain...

Not sure how on your side of the pond but here these cost ~$40-$50. Not VW/OEM but a quality replacement from BEHR or Wahler (which I believe are OE suppliers to VW anyway).

Not going to argue with anyone regarding labour time but I agree this will take way more than 5-10 minutes to do. However, if this would be my car which is due for TB service, I'd probably strongly consider doing that while the car has got belts removed and coolant drained
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I skipped the t-stat when I did my timing belt. I'll do it on the next tb job (hopefully not sooner).
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Old December 19th, 2017, 19:10   #21
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I skipped the t-stat when I did my timing belt. I'll do it on the next tb job (hopefully not sooner).
Me too.

What exactly is the thermostat service interval, anyways?
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Old December 20th, 2017, 00:55   #22
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Me too.
What exactly is the thermostat service interval, anyways?
I'd say, YMMW.

I suspect that the lifespan of t-stat depends on count of heat cycles.
I do a lot of short tripping, frequent starts and stops. My T-stat at 73k miles is weak. I can't reach coolant temperatures over 83-84 *C no matter what I do.
Meanwhile, a buddy of mine in Germany, who drives mainly on highways and has got twice the mileage on the same engine, has got still factory t-stat and it steadily holds 92-93 *C (the t-stat is rated for 92 *C) even at idle and in city driving.
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The ECU monitors warm up times, so if your thermostat gets really bad, ESPECIALLY on the CR engines, you'll know, because you'll have a nice MIL staring you in the face. However, they do progressively get weaker before they get to that point. However the CR engines (at least the versions sold here) are very sensitive to engine temps. I have only ever had to replace one. And that car had over 1/4 million miles on it, and was flagging the 'mapped cooling system' DTC.
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Old December 20th, 2017, 12:07   #24
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The DTC/MIL must be US-only tune thing, probably due to tighter emissions regulations.

In September I have seen a Passat B6 w/2.0 TDI-CR engine (yeah, I know you didn't have such car with CR engines there but Europe had), it was very similar to early CBEAs you had. In fact, the t-stat was completely stuck open. Never got a CEL or any DTC!
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Even the ALHs here will flag coolant temp too low. We also have an aggressive after glow period as well. Lots of stuff here is different. We had OBD2 in 1997 diesels, you guys had EOBD through 2003 (some of our cars even have the spot in the center for the DLC for that).
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Good info re: thermostats, thanks guys!
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