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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old September 18th, 2018, 12:19   #46
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Found this link:



https://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/t...h-vcds-mk6-vw/


I'll give it one more try, if no luck I'll maybe see the dealer in Mexico.
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Old September 20th, 2018, 11:13   #47
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Well I guess persistence does pay off !
Upon further searching I got into the

Can-Gateway module


In there I was able to uncheck
4C-Tire pressure
65-Tire pressure


From a long list of choices.


I also found some settings which I do not think applied to my vehicle which I also changed. Such as instead of a sedan it was a short deck transport. Some others like that as well. It also lists my Passat as a "PQ46" somewhere but I left that alone since I do not know if this is some code for the "NMS" in North America.



I found many threads on the internet, but none of them really offered a solution. So I just plugged along investigating modules with my Ross-Tech HEX-V2.


Thanks to all who tried to help with this.
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Old September 20th, 2018, 12:27   #48
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So did that get it to work, or just jerry rig it to dead? Checking the xorrect system ought to work, since there are zero known hardware faults in your car . . . .
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i'd be more interested how the coding got changed in the first place.
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i'd be more interested how the coding got changed in the first place.

Only thing I can say is that after I had the Phase 2 done I had to ask Malone for a new Stage 2 tune file since the Stage 2 file I had saved to my FlashZilla before taking the car in to VW could not be entered again.


So to me it seems that in addition to the hardware swap they must have also diddled the ECU.
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They did.

Phase 2 introduced a second NOx sensor. Obviously they would have to revise the software to utilize that second sensor. And since you cant use the same ECU part number with the new software, the ECU part number changed.

I'll bet it is the different part number that blocked the flashzilla from working.
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yeah but ECU modifications shouldn't have anything to do with ABS controllers and TPMS, different beasts.

Jetta, did Malone charge you for the phase 2 compliant file?
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Common to have other modules need a software update for compatibility issues. This isn't limited to VAG products.
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I was replying directly to Jetta_Pilot as to why his flashzilla wouldn’t reload his flash after the Vw reflash was done.
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Common to have other modules need a software update for compatibility issues. This isn't limited to VAG products.
So who then performed the update for compatibility?

You think the phase 2 fix modified something with the ABS and then it caused the stock phase 2 Malone coding to mess up the ABS module?
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I have no idea, I was just stating that in some cases a manufacturer that has an update for a specific module, it will require another module to get an update for compatibility purposes. LOTS (most) manufacturers are like this. You find a couple DTCs, find a TSB that says this issue can be resolved with a software update, you go to check the software version and there is indeed a newer version available, you update that module, then the program says now you'll also need to update these other modules. Happens to me all the time. Ford, Toyota, ChryCo especially, GM... every time we replace one of the GM transmissions that has the TCM built in we need to load the software which 9 times out of 10 also means the ENGINE controller needs a new flash too.

The techs at the Volkswagen dealers connect the car to their system, the actual updating is done via the 'net. Not sure how it is now, but it used to be a pretty "hands off" affair at the local level, you didn't always really know exactly what was happening while OTIS was churning away .
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You know what I just realized.....

I saved a scan from my car the day I bought it (I always do incase I need to revert to day 1 coding).

I can compare it with my most recent scan and see if anything changed in teh ABS module...

I will try to check this when I get home from work today.
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Jetta, did Malone charge you for the phase 2 compliant file?

No Malone did not, I just took a reading of the ECU and sent it in then shortly after received a new Stage 2 file which the ECU accepted without a hitch.
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You know what I just realized.....

I saved a scan from my car the day I bought it (I always do incase I need to revert to day 1 coding).

I can compare it with my most recent scan and see if anything changed in teh ABS module...

I will try to check this when I get home from work today.

I don't think a system wide scan (for fault codes) will record all long coding of the modules, i could be wrong though, and the issue you had was with the long coding of modules.
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I don't think a system wide scan (for fault codes) will record all long coding of the modules, i could be wrong though, and the issue you had was with the long coding of modules.
It sure does.

Here's my latest scan. (I bolded the long coding in 09 for reference but changed nothing else)

Side note... It wasnt me having the issue. I was attempting to offer a solution. =^)

Code:
Monday,24,September,2018,17:49:29:20576
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 1VWBV7A39FC086733   License Plate: 
Mileage: 95430km-59297mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: A3-VW41 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 42 44 46 4F 52 56 62 72
          75 77

VIN: 1VWBV7A39FC086733   Mileage: 95430km-59297miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CVCA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 04L 997 016 D    HW: 04L 907 309 K
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H20 9466  
   Revision: 8AH20---    
   Coding: 011D0012032410080000
   Shop #: WSC 22600 444 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L997016D 004002
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 346C8CCE9F6B0FE4F3-8060

No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM20TDI01104L997016D" (VW41) 
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 061 T    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     531 4518  
   Revision: 05653104    Serial number: 00001501231965
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 254A618AECB1666C74-8070

1 Fault Found:
28907 - No Communications with Cruise Control (Front) Distance Sensor 
            U0235 - 000 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 28
                    Mileage: 94195 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.09.15
                    Time: 08:05:29


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BS    HW: 1K0 907 379 BS
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0166  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: C54BC0F5492A0000A31203E7921C0042A0100012
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 040C1C0E874B7F6403-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 561 907 426 J    HW: 561 907 426 J
   Component: AC Manuell    H02 0404  
   Revision: 00001K01    
   Coding: 0010001002
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC 001002
   ROD: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC_VW36.rod
   VCID: 22407A96359F915411-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 085 AB    HW: 5K0 937 085 AB
   Component: BCM PQ35 B+   122 0174  
   Revision: BH122001    
   Coding: EF200E3B902B08D40988000106000C4002F5A00040801520648460000C70
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 73EE4FD2D2E548DC2A-8026

1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 251
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.70 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AB    HW: 5C0 959 655 AB
   Component: AirbagVW10    500 0975  
   Serial number: 003LZD05VF4+  
   Coding: 00004D35
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001030
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 72E04AD6A5FF41D421-8026

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 6940000Y150001B8P00I
   Coding: 303044

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME4E47284EZZZ7

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME7A414B4DZZZ5

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME22597C34ZZZX

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME20191135ZZZC

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3556LSME461D1332ZZZR

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3566LSME1B031132ZZZH

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 BM    HW: 5K0 953 569 AE
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0162  
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20150126201626
   Coding: 088A140000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 79F27DFAF889328C60-802C

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-8LP  H07 0023 
   Serial number: 00000000000001032640
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 561 920 970 G    HW: 561 920 970 G
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0813  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 231C01
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 1E384E6601E7B5B435-804A

1 Fault Found:
13654544 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 251
                    Mileage: 95429 km
                    Date: 2018.09.24
                    Time: 03:12:03


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AR    HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
   Component: J533  Gateway H55 1653  
   Revision:   H55       Serial number: 12031503000383
   Coding: 461000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 0004101E9353634427-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing
Cannot be reached

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0813  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6AD052B68D2F891499-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0525  
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0009362627
   Coding: 0404B5
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 5BBE07725275E09C12-800E

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 811 B    HW: 561 959 811 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5470 
   Serial number: 14202630150312085101
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 215    3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3972BDFA7009F28C20-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
   Component: EZE_2         H55 1653  
   Revision:   H55       Serial number: 12031503000383
   Coding: 01030108
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 6FE643A2BECD6C3CCE-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 591 A    HW: 561 959 591 A
   Component: J245 P05 9BA3  H08 0005 
   Serial number: 53388786011416800027
   Coding: 181100

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 561 919 204 B    HW: 561 919 204 B
   Component: Analoguhr  009 0005 

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0525  
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0009387535
   Coding: 0404B4
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 5CBC046E577BE7A41B-8008

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 812 B    HW: 561 959 812 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5470 
   Serial number: 14102631150323161125
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 188 F    HW: 1K0 035 188 F
   Component: Radio Prem-8  H08 0009  
   Revision: -----13S    Serial number: VWZ4Z7R3688320
   Coding: 0100044004000B
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2B5E97B24A55501CA2-807E

2 Faults Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 95
                    Mileage: 92107 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.07.25
                    Time: 23:57:07

02633 - Antenna for Satellite Tuner 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 248
                    Mileage: 93945 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.09.09
                    Time: 18:38:43


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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 12E-035-284.clb
   Part No SW: 561 035 285 A    HW: 561 035 285 A
   Component: OCULowUSA     020 0156  
   Serial number: 000003554140534
   Coding: 02140102C21632007F1606C00000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULow 002009
   ROD: EV_OCULow_002.rod
   VCID: 142C2C4EFF2BEFE493-8040

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 E    HW: 5N0 035 729 E
   Component: TELEFON       H07 0593  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666961555
   Coding: 0A10030080010110
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
   ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
   VCID: 32608AD6657F01D4E1-8066

No fault code found.

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