EE20 Subaru diesel

NoJoke · Feb 14, 2012

Was reading about this in TDIsyncro's thread and wanted to designate its own.

I'm a huge fan of the Subaru concept but not sure on its diesel engine capabilities or how they compare to VW's line. Any info on performance potential or other Subaru diesel motor's?

Whitbread · Feb 14, 2012

I imagine if you apply the normal diesel tricks, 300hp wouldn't be too hard. I'd LOVE to play around with one in a sandrail.

I'd do porting, cams, head studs, rods (better safe than sorry), nozzles, a turbo or two, intercooler, and a skynam or nira ecu. Should make for at least 250whp and a riot in something lightweight and RWD.

storx · Feb 14, 2012

Based off the history of subaru they tend to put one or two things that is very important in making chip tunes difficult to run on there engines....in the past they would put either cheaper quality pistons or rods in that were barely capable of holding a stock engine together. They build there engines this way so there not warranty out parts on engines that were dogged prior to bringingg them in...so I would expect the ee20 engine to follow there history. So expect engine modding to clear 300 safely.

DPM · Feb 14, 2012

they chip (or tuning box) to 175+ and sound pretty nice with open pipes. Some of the cleverer tuners are scraping 200. Beyond that, I haven't heard of anything extreme yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLe5ZfJtdE8

NoJoke · Feb 15, 2012

http://www.boxerdiesel.com/engineering/en/05.html

Some reading on the subject; funky looking rods!

They talk about weight reduction, any idea how much difference vs. VW? Also correct me if I'm wrong but it should be 16v?

davebugs · Feb 15, 2012

Well followed on the Subaru MB's.

But just like most VW diesel selections realistically isn't coming here.

A few guys import then as crate motors and sell them.

I'd love to buy one.

VW isn't interested in a low cost AWD diesel for the US market.

loudspl · Feb 15, 2012

yep, it's 16v DOHC

and a 16.3:1 CR stock so that's nice too

Scott_DeWitt · Feb 15, 2012

Rumor has it you have to run a standalone as the stock ecm hasn't been fully cracked yet.

Whitbread · Feb 15, 2012

Scott_DeWitt said:
Rumor has it you have to run a standalone as the stock ecm hasn't been fully cracked yet.

So......what's the problem with that?

Rub87 · Feb 15, 2012

wonder when the block will separate =)

DPM · Feb 16, 2012

dunno, all those throughbolts for the mains plus more round the perimeter? More chance of pulling the steel matrix insert out of the alloy, and that'd take a bit of force...

Alcaid · Feb 16, 2012

Rub87 said:
wonder when the block will separate =)

Only one way to find out

unclesfunnyonions · Feb 16, 2012

DPM said:
they chip (or tuning box) to 175+ and sound pretty nice with open pipes. Some of the cleverer tuners are scraping 200. Beyond that, I haven't heard of anything extreme yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLe5ZfJtdE8

That sounds lairy

Alex.

Elfnmagik · Feb 16, 2012

Purty!

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/03/subie_boxer_d.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/07/geneva-motor-show-subarus-boxer-diesel/&usg=__QmWg5q6l52LjJID9aTdnbGtQFKo=&h=299&w=450&sz=79&hl=en&start=5&zoom=1&tbnid=jubQZA0Z6D-6pM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=127&ei=eTU9T4eALYmctweD_4DYBQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsubaru%2Bboxer%2Bdiesel%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1

UsArmyTDI · Feb 16, 2012

I like the way the boxer sounds! And with big torque along with wad, it seems like the recipe for a fun car. I just wish I knew more about the boxer motors. I know. The ago motor is pretty stout. And I k.ow they are fun to drive. That's about it

NoJoke · Feb 16, 2012

Elfnmagik said:
Purty!

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...oxer+diesel&hl=en&safe=active&tbm=isch&itbs=1

Mahle pistons? Is it me or does the crankshaft look slim? Chime in Meister

especially about the block and opposing inertia.

Also is the HPFP the same as VW?

Elfnmagik · Feb 16, 2012

cool

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum...ew-subaru-ee20-boxer-turbo-diesel-detail.html

RedRotors · Feb 16, 2012

Scott_DeWitt said:
Rumor has it you have to run a standalone as the stock ecm hasn't been fully cracked yet.

Tuning for this ECU is possible, no problem.

TDIMeister · Feb 16, 2012

NoJoke said:
Chime in Meister

Boxers are nice...

DPM · Feb 21, 2012

http://www.specialist-components.co.uk/engineering/diesel-engine-management/

Syncrogreg · Jan 29, 2013

Check this out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qSg_kSAO1k&playnext=1&list=PL100DE239C2AA2FCD&feature=results_main

Greg

Syncrogreg · Jan 29, 2013

Also this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkrYXVrL3Eo

Greg

Syncrogreg · May 22, 2015

I have been running the EE20 with Bosch motorsports ECU for 40.000km all the way down to patagonia today without a single issue!
Follow our adventure on instagram or facebook.
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Also from a previous build:
http://youtu.be/J1MUmJ7IIB8
Ciao!
Greg

turbobrick240 · May 22, 2015

I'm very impressed w the EE20 swaps you've done. Have you done any performance enhancements lately? Any dynos?

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