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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old December 17th, 2011, 18:15   #1
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Default TDTuning vs RocketChip

Let me first say...I am still wet behind the ears, but a quick student.

First TDI, and moving towards upgrades for power and MPG’s

Recently put in Bosio 205's now I am investing ecu tunes, I have been in contact with a few people concerning the 2 vendors and I want to get a mass oppion on the topic, I would hate to go with one when the other would be a better choice, so I am exhausting all options before making a choice. (please no offense intended to those I have PM or spoke with)

My plan....positive balance between power and mpg's, also want a little snot when I want/need it. So I have come to terms with a ECU tune rather than a PnP box.

So my basic question to everyone who reads this is, what are the concensious on the 2 options of TDTuning and RocketChip, is a chip a chip or does one do a better job at “CHIPPING” so to speak…

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Old December 17th, 2011, 19:05   #2
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I am in your boat...wondering if you decided against Malone and Revo for some reason, or just limiting the options?


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Old December 17th, 2011, 19:12   #3
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Well everyone likes their tuner and that is that. I have been with RocketChip for quite a while and I like his tunes. Then I know that people who with Malone tunes and they are happy with their tunes.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 19:12   #4
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They are both good choices, just depends on which one YOU feel more comfortable with.
Become a student of the search button and dry your ears with the immense amount of information specific to the various tuners that is available.
Search. Read. Think. Decide.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 20:00   #5
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Also look at a GTG near you. Many times a tuner will be there.

There will be a GTG at the Ho5G this spring. Look under the meets tab & East Coast.

You could even meet mech644 here......
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Old December 17th, 2011, 20:06   #6
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Didnt know about them...

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I am in your boat...wondering if you decided against Malone and Revo for some reason, or just limiting the options?


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Old December 17th, 2011, 20:27   #7
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i am leaning more towards RC the more i read, plus close to me, so driveable and able to stay and ask questions.

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Old December 17th, 2011, 20:29   #8
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I love my Malone tune, great tune, great service, great guy.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 21:50   #9
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Use the search function & don't feed the tuning wars. All this has been asked and answered many times before. Read, quietly ask knowledgeable veteran owners, attend a GTG, make sure your engine is in proper running condition and ready to be tuned.. Then make your choice.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 22:51   #10
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Default How to you like the "EDGE" tuning chip module?

I've been disappointed with the instrumentation in my 2012 JSW TDI. (I hope I'm not violating any TDI forum rules here.)
Have any of you seen the ad from EDGE showing a supplemental instrument cluster with up to eight parameters of analog or digital indicators?
Better yet, have any of the TDI old timers given this EDGE tuning chip idea a try? I'm interested mainly in the instrumentation, and want to know if it is bogus or worth it!
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Want to give your vehicle an extra boost? Install a performance module by Edge to increase your vehicle's power, performance and fuel economy. Available easy to read monitor places everything at your fingertips, making the module easy to adapt to your specific needs. Many performance modules multi-task, so not only do you gain the extra torque and horsepower you want, you are also able to utilize the modules built in GPS and backup camera! The power levels on the performance module match fueling with any upgrades you have made, making an Edge programmer the perfect final touch! Believe it or not, here a link to a video showing the EDGE tuning module installed on a Chevy Truck!

http://www.etrailer.com/tv-review-ed...r-EP85700.aspx
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Old December 17th, 2011, 23:09   #11
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.... plus close to me, so driveable and able to stay and ask questions.
This seems to be a deciding factor for many people. Most of the quality tuners have very similar results. Often the choice has more to do with convenience. Most people do not want to pull their ECUs and ship them across the country and wait for it to come back. They do not want to be without their cars for up to a week. Therefore, the proximity of the tuner (or one of their dealers) is often a deciding factor. In other words, how easy is it to get the tune installed and how easy is it to get it re-done in case VW overwrites it in the future. RocketChip, Malone, TDTuning, HPA, Revo, etc. all sell excellent tunes. The first three (Jeff, Mark, and Mike) can also customize the tune for different nozzles, turbos, etc (I'm not sure about the others). Anyway, if you stick with a reputable tuner, I seriously doubt that you will be disappointed with the results.

Have Fun!

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Old December 17th, 2011, 23:41   #12
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I can say for sure you cannot go wrong with either of RocketChip, Malone, TDTuning, ..... all sell excellent tunes. I know the first three (Jeff, Mark, and Mike) mentioned above and the quality of their work.... the other two mentioned, I simply do not know.

Keep in mind, there is some definite benefit to obtaining your tune via email Vs. having to pull out the ecu and shipping across the country... lotsa vectors and force fields in that method... + with the first method, you can send logs via email again and the tune can be adjusted accordingly...

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This seems to be a deciding factor for many people. Most of the quality tuners have very similar results. Often the choice has more to do with convenience. Most people do not want to pull their ECUs and ship them across the country and wait for it to come back. They do not want to be without their cars for up to a week. Therefore, the proximity of the tuner (or one of their dealers) is often a deciding factor. In other words, how easy is it to get the tune installed and how easy is it to get it re-done in case VW overwrites it in the future. RocketChip, Malone, TDTuning, HPA, Revo, etc. all sell excellent tunes. The first three (Jeff, Mark, and Mike) can also customize the tune for different nozzles, turbos, etc (I'm not sure about the others). Anyway, if you stick with a reputable tuner, I seriously doubt that you will be disappointed with the results.

Have Fun!

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Old December 18th, 2011, 10:26   #13
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As many have said TDTuning, Malone Tuning and Rocket Chip are the three most prominent tuners on this site. Charlie at Kerma TDI is also an experienced tuner, I believe He has been Tuning TDI's since 2007 or 2008.
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Old December 18th, 2011, 11:38   #14
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Ignore the yellow "SDI" curve, but the other 3 are tunes from RC and TDT on 3 seperate ECU's - Dyno runs ~5 minutes apart - nothing but the ECU's changed.

None of the tunes have been "optimized" - they are more/less "off the shelf" tunes.

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Old December 18th, 2011, 15:33   #15
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Nice graph. Once you dyno your car you know you need to shift no later than 4000 rpm as your torque is dropping off. The interesting part about FixUntilBroke's car is that you can see it seemed that 135 was the max hp; on the same dyno I got 146 hp and 269 ft-lb torque. Maybe the heavy towing was taking a toll on his car, dunno.
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