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Old December 11th, 2017, 22:34   #16
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X3 on the Hengst.
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Old December 17th, 2017, 07:10   #17
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For oil, I use Mann in my VeeDubs, Always manage to get them on deal to, more available then Hengst. For my Jeep GC CRD, was NAPA gold, made in Poland. But Just got a Mahle for under $4, made in Austria. Fuel Filters I use Mahle for VWs, best price,also made in Austri, under $14 although I did get a Mann from IdParts $10 on clearance, had to order little gaskets separate at another time. Jeep I use Hengst. Get for $20, much cheaper than Mann and others. Air, I use Mann.
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Old December 18th, 2017, 05:15   #18
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Picked up 5 Mahle filters for the Alltrack made in Austria as well, it uses an O-Ring type seal around the center rod, where the factory filter which I'm guessing is mann, uses the filter media fused sealed end.

Either way in hind sight I could have picked up 6 pack of mann for the same price from Amazon I ordered 5 mahle filters from Autozone, but oh well.
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Old December 19th, 2017, 07:10   #19
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NAPA gold oil filter for b5 is made in Poland.
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Old December 19th, 2017, 18:45   #20
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X4, it’s Hengst for me as well on both ALH and BEW.
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Old December 19th, 2017, 19:25   #21
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What defines "good" in an oil filter here?
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Old December 20th, 2017, 12:39   #22
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I've been using Hengst for years.
I've been looking for that thread showing the number of pleats but haven't found, it yet.
This is one of the pleat comparison threads from years ago, but it's a Bosch vs Mahle comparison:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread...95#post2529995
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FWIW all of the brands mentioned above have facilities in China. And as far as we can tell Hengst doen't make many of their own products for Euro brands.

Mann just recently purchased Wix. I don't know if they repackage Mann filters for Euro applications: we plan to continue to purchase Mann for VWs, and will add Wix products for domestic diesels. They seem to have a good reputation in that market.

Purolator tends to identify spin-on filters that are "close enough" for the stated application. Given a choice I'd pick Mann over Purolator. Mann also owns Purolator.
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Old December 20th, 2017, 13:30   #24
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And as far as we can tell Hengst doen't make many of their own products for Euro brands.
At least the 20 Hengst filters (E154H D4) I have on the shelf are each labeled "Made In Germany".

I don't know if they still are.

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At least the 20 Hengst filters (E154H D4) I have on the shelf are each labeled "Made In Germany".
Yes, but by whom? Re-boxing filters from other manufacturers is pretty common, and Hengst seems to do this more than other brands.
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This is one of the pleat comparison threads from years ago, but it's a Bosch vs Mahle comparison:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread...95#post2529995
Just a FYI: Bosch does not make its oil filters. Bosch contracts the oil filters out to someone else. Bosch used to use Champion but AFAIK, Bosch now uses Purolator.

As an aside, Bosch does make its own fuel filters.

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Old December 20th, 2017, 17:49   #27
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Yes, but by whom? Re-boxing filters from other manufacturers is pretty common, and Hengst seems to do this more than other brands.
From Hengst website:

"The particularly high vertical integration is what distinguishes Hengst from our competitors. From the preparation and refinement of the filter medium up to the plastic housing and the pressure cast component, everything is manufactured by Hengst."

https://www.hengst.com/en/filtration...tion-spectrum/

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Old December 23rd, 2017, 08:54   #28
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A lot of interesting comments about filters. No one mentioned the Hastings LF517 or Fleetguard LF3451 or Donaldson P557780. I use to use the Purolator filter but have read some things that it used to be a good filter but it is made different now and not recommended. I have read that there are only a few factories that make filters and brands like Amsoil,Royal Purple and Mobil 1 are made by other companies to their specs. 100% synthetic are supposed to be the best for extended oil change intervals but there are very few filters made for this application that are. I change my oil every 10,000 miles and use the Rotela 5w-40 synthetic. I have not heard about the Hengst or Mahle brands. A lot of comments about these two brands and many seem to recommend them. What about the brands I have mentioned?
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Old December 31st, 2017, 04:19   #29
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Considering that the original VW engines from the 25 hp to 36 to 40, etc., seemed to survive without an oil filter, I think about any brand is sufficient to handle the intended purpose. Keep the oil level at spec and change everything per spec and drive on! Surely at 370k miles, my ol' 2000 will make it to 500k.

Anyway, Mann is my choice when purchasing on-line. Locally, I buy Purolator filters.
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Those with a PD engine can still get the originally supplied zig zag filter which is good for 2 oil changes or 30,000 kilometers. It is still available at the dealer and is sold for the v-6 passat. Part number 070 115 562 made in France.

Edit: My mistake, According to ID Parts (which only sell the Mann straight pleat): Oil filter for Volkswagen Jetta TDI on the A5 chassis as well as the MkVI Golf TDI. This oil filter will fit the 2005-2006 Jetta TDI with the BRM engine as well as the new 2009+ VW Clean Diesel TDI, 2.0L, engine codes CBEA and CJAA

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