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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old Yesterday, 15:39   #1066
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The only reason people want to FIX any TDI is because of the payment from VW.

Not many TDi would be fixed otherwise.

SO, VW if you are listening !? no payment on salvage no FIX either then pay your FINE!
The warranty, as well.

Those of us who sold back our previous gen TDIs and bought 2015 with phase 1 already done aren't likely to be eligible for the 2nd phase payout but if we don't get it done we won't get the extended warranty.
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Old Yesterday, 15:41   #1067
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you dont need a warranty on stuff the car wont have any more, aka del everything em wise.
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Old Yesterday, 15:49   #1068
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I've emailed and called all people posted by johtdi - thanks. Is there a contact at CARB that should be interested in this?
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Old Yesterday, 16:16   #1069
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I've emailed and called all people posted by johtdi - thanks. Is there a contact at CARB that should be interested in this?
Thanks Calguy.

I think the basic problem with this settlement is everyone got their money already and thus no one is inclined to help people with issues like us. Cabraser got $175M already paid. CARB got their funds. The federal government collected a big fine. VW has no incentive to move things along other than the 85% bar and they are bullying plaintiff counsel and CRC.
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Old Yesterday, 16:53   #1070
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The report by ankura are coming up soon, please do what you can so this issue is addressed. We are getting off topic focusing on one claim repeatedly.

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Here are all of the emails addresses again, if you haven't already please write a quick note advise you are delayed or no response, anything is better than nothing. If anyone else has other email address of others to include on this please let me know i will update this post. Numbers Come out after February 26th lets make sure our cases are documented.

If you haven't received a response from all on this list, email them again, they have to know we will not go away if they keep ignoring us with bs deadlines, time frames that pass.

Vw willfully accepted all brands of titles with accident history early last year, many made purchases because of this, the smoke show, delay game has gone on long enough. Lets all do our part in any way we possibly can.

Thanks for all who have, we have to do something, prior to all the emails the epa didn't have a vw email address dedicated to this issue now they do, i believe our efforts have been noticed. With all of the press about hard knox maybe this will also get attention make vw enforce the settlement as they were earlier last year.

LEAD ATTORNEY Class Counsel
ecabraser@lchb.com
pgnguyen@lchb.com
t 415.956.1000 ext. 2236

FTC Email: jcohen2@ftc.gov
(202) 326-2551

DOJ
bethany.engel@usdoj.gov
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COURT APPOINTED CLAIMS SUPERVISOR
terrence.brody@ankura.com
john.hays@ankura.com
1.202.481.1337 Direct


EPA Emails:
OTAQ@epa.gov
Iddings.Brianna@epa.gov
VW_settlement@epa.gov
734-214-4428

THE CRC
crc@vwcourtsettlement.com
1-844-98-CLAIM or 1-844 982-5246


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Old Yesterday, 17:16   #1071
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Thanks Calguy.
I think the basic problem with this settlement is everyone got their money already and thus no one is inclined to help people with issues like us. Cabraser got $175M already paid. CARB got their funds. The federal government collected a big fine. VW has no incentive to move things along other than the 85% bar and they are bullying plaintiff counsel and CRC.
Thanks. I agree. All along I have felt that CARB just wanted $ to build bike paths and HOV lanes....along with Jerry's 'high speed' rail. I suppose off topic so I won't go on.
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Old Yesterday, 17:26   #1072
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Thanks. I agree. All along I have felt that CARB just wanted $ to build bike paths and HOV lanes....along with Jerry's 'high speed' rail. I suppose off topic so I won't go on.
Off topic - but the people that caught VW were not CARB. Carb was clueless. Some little lab. Those meddling kids.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/b...-virginia.html
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Old Yesterday, 17:46   #1073
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@johtdi

Thanks for keeping the contacts list updated. I do believe discussing some of these claims in-depth and debating is actually positive. It keeps people engaged in the process and you can bet the PSC is having similar discussions.

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This is an interesting turn of events:

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I was on the phone w class counsel just now. She said they are in negotiations w vw currently about the spirit of the settlement and people trying to profit instead of real people being damaged. They may not do buybacks on cars purchased in late 2017 or 2018 or do fixes on cars( she said you could get fix done if they allowed it but would not pay you) on people deemed to be profiteers. They are putting them all on hold and have no date for next hearing. May go to the end of the settlement in 2019. She sid same w salvage titles. There is no timeline at all.
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Old Yesterday, 20:21   #1075
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This is an interesting turn of events:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...02&postcount=4
Will not do buybacks on cars purchased in late 2017 for clean titles? HA. That would be a breach on contract with a capital B.

I have called class counsel many times. Once in a while I get real light weights on the phone. Paralegals. Dumbasses. etc. These lost souls give you BS just like VW claims line.

Yet, do not believe everything to read on the internet. Maybe this person just wants people to sell their clean titles.
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Old Yesterday, 23:23   #1076
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Your post does nothing to refute what I wrote. Clearly the examples you provided are in regards to private sales and speak nothing about salvage auctions.
Point #1 could arguably refer to class members selling their totaled cars to insurance companies/salvage yards/auctioneers, but that doesn't mean the relationship works in the opposite way (people buying the vehicles from insurance companies/salvage yards/auctioneers in order to *become* class members).
Point #2 isn't even relevant. A totaled vehicle, taken off the road through an insurance claim, does not need to be collected by VW. Under normal circumstances, the vehicle would not have been included the vehicle count that VW is required to remove from service. The vehicles are being placed *back into* service in an attempt to force VW to pay the new owner or the government for not hitting their milestones.
The "profiteer" concept brought it this forum (not brought in the post I quoted but is related to it) is MOOT.

What's the difference between buying a clean title used car from a private party and buying a used car at an auction? Both are very well known and established markets and there is a buyer, a seller, a market value, and a price. Whether someone profits or not is moot. If you think cars at auction lots are just dead cars or should be dead cars you are ignorant of a well known market. Thus, there is no such thing as a profiteer. An auction lot is just another used car lot. The settlement very specifically describes new eligible owners once they buy an eligible car so it makes no difference what lot or driveway you bought it from.
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Old Yesterday, 23:38   #1077
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This is an interesting turn of events:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...02&postcount=4
If the settlement was only to help people that were harmed they wouldn't allow new owners, they would just compensate existing owners for damages, or they could test to see if you were actually harmed, or any other myriad of tests, but none of that is in the settlement.

This talk of harmed owners assumes VW is not being punished for certifying non-compliant cars, hence the EPA and FTC involvement.

Whoever said that is just blowing smoke or is a trained VW parrot. I know I'm speculating but the direction of discussion loses context at times.

Again, don't forget per the settlement VW is required to pay restitution twice when a car is totaled - one to the totaled car owner, and again in the buyback to the new owner who bought it at auction, fixed, and re-registered the car. This is clearly a problem I can understand VW would have issue with. At the same time I have an excruciatingly difficult time reconciling how they could have missed that if they indeed did not expect it.
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