GROUP BUY- SouthBend SILENT TDI Solid Flywheel & Clutch Kits

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ryanp

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Hi Guys,

Darkside Developments are now SouthBend Clutch and Flywheel Dealers for the UK and Europe. Their products have been tried and tested for years in North America and they are now starting to break on to the European Scene. They saw Darkside Developments as the company to assist them in doing that within the VAG TDI Market.

One of the most important points about SouthBend is that they have developed SILENT Single Mass Flywheel Kits for the 6 Speed VAG TDIs.

We all know that in the pursuit of big power, the dual mass flywheel has to go. The problem many people have with this is that Single Mass Flywheels give the annoying chatter at idle and low speeds. This is not too bad in an all out racer or drag car, but considering the vast majority of modified TDIs are driven daily, this can be a big drawback. No one wants to drive a car that sounds like it should be ploughing a field!

Please see the link for information on the 02M 6 Speed Kit

And this link for the 02J 5 Speed Kit

There are also Kits available for the 02Q 6 Speed (Mk5 Platform Vehicles), these will be listed on our website shortly. Pricing is similar to the 02M Kits.

Here are some photos provided by SouthBend:

Stage 2 and 3 Daily Driver Kits:



Stage 2 and 3 Endurance Kits:



SBCF0503TDI Silent 02M Flywheel:



Prices and details of each individual kit are available on our website (see the links above). Basically to do the group buy we require at least 5 people. Here is the discount we can give:

5 Units = £50 Discount
6 Units = £60 Discount
7 Units = £70 Discount
8 Units = £80 Discount
9 Units = £90 Discount
10 Units+ = £100 Discount

This is for any of the kits, regardless of retail price. If we have an overwhelming demand, the discount could be increased further, so basically the more people you refer this on to, the bigger your own discount will be!

Postage within the UK Mainland is FREE for the Group Buy, saving £12.
I can ship to anywhere in Europe; you can calculate shipping cost on the website by adding the kit to your Cart and inputting your address details.
Customers outside of Europe please get in touch so I can check with SouthBend on availability in your country (I don’t want to step on any other distributor’s toes). PLEASE NOTE - This group buy is unavailable for customers in the USA and Canada.

We require a deposit of £50 initially to secure a place in the group buy. This is only refundable if the group buy does not go ahead. Full payment will then be needed 5 days after the closing date. I am setting the closing date to Saturday 3rd December 2011 (just over 1 month). I would estimate delivery will be mid-December as long as everyone pays on time.

Payment is via Debit Card (over the phone, online or in person), Bank Transfer (to my business account), Credit Card (over the phone, online or in person, subject to 2% Fee) or PayPal (Subject to 4% Fee).

If you have any questions, please PM me with the subject ‘SouthBend Group Buy’.

Thanks!

Ryan
 
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manual_tranny

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Very cool! So, is the flywheel by itself the part that silences the kit? Because I could really use a silent flywheel by itself. (I chose a light flywheel before I saw another member experience transmission carnage as a result of a light flywheel... so I haven't installed mine)

I've got two TDIs, how about this: if I order one kit, could I also order a second silent flywheel by itself to fix the SB kit in my garage? :)
 

ryanp

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Well, the changes are in the Flywheel AND the friction disc to make it silent but the heavier flywheel does help and it wont self Destruct like the one you describe. Without SB giving away too many secrets that's all i can say!

As you are in the US we can drop ship BUT i cannot include you in our group buy, Due to VAT the price you are paying will still be very good anyway!
 

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Hi Ryan, is there a distributor for these in the US or do you have a part number that I can go direct to SBC with?
 

ryanp

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Give me a day and I will let you know what we can do. The agreement between SouthBend and me is the UK and Europe, so I don't want to step on the US distributors toes.

Thanks

Ryan
 

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Call SBC and ask. There are distributors all over the US. Good to see a great product making it over to Europe.
 

ryanp

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Here are the retails for the USA and Canada:



Shipping within the USA is $35.

You can find out the rest of the info on my website:

02J 5 Speed Kit

02M 6 Speed Kit

Thanks

Ry
 
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ryanp

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Had lots of enquiries about the kits but no firm orders yet.

The Eagle Eyed among you will have noticed I now have photos of the 02J setups on the website:



Prices on those setups are insanely cheap for the amount of kit and quality that you get.


Someone on UKMKIVS also found a bit of info on the SILENT design:

For the 02M (6 Speed triple shaft gearbox) SouthBend has developed a tuned and dampened heavy mass flywheel specifically designed to replace the OEM TDI flywheel (of which clutch parts are not available in the USA). The heavier mass flywheel is precision tuned and balanced to dampen the power strokes of the diesel engine. These new flywheels are a clean slate approach for the often overlooked TDI market. Southbend is the only clutch company that is willing to invest the time, effort, and money developing parts for such a niche market.

In addition to the tuned and dampened flywheel, Southbend offers a full floating sprung clutch disc that allows the splined portion of the disc to float around the input shaft reducing gear rattle as well as clutch chatter. The full floating disc feature is available on the diesel 02M, 02J, 02A and numerous gas (petrol) applications
Makes for interesting reading!

Thanks
 

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We now have 3 confirmed people on the group buy, just need 2 more for the £50 discount to kick in!

I will have further details on the 02Q Kits in a week or so all being well.

Thanks

Ryan
 

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Still waiting on some orders!!
 

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We are up to order number 4 now so we just have 1 last space to fill!

Thanks

Ry
 

740GLE

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Any word on one for the 2009+ CR 6Spds?
 

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Those will be ready in time for the group buy, i sent a stock flywheel to them a while ago as i need more of those than the 02M or 02J anyway!

They will be the same price as the 02M kits too.

Thanks!

Ryan
 
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are you selling to US at all or just europe. if yes what would the total price come out to with shipping.. please reply asap as i need to buy a clutch today !!!
 

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I can sell to anyone!

Thanks!
 

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Ryan,
interested in

SBC Stage 2 Daily Clutch Kit w/SMF $495

If the group buy go's how much am I looking at shipped here in the US to zip 28314?

I need a new clutch so I will be ordering before Christmas..

Thanks
Todd
 

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Hi Todd,

Sorry the group buy is not open to customers in North America. I can send one direct from SB at the retail cost no problem! PM sent!

Thanks

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So big power has to go to smf? thats fine. i know its not part of group buy but which would be a decent replacement for stock or a step up from stock to handle like 150hp?

2006 jetta tdi here
 

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you dont have to go SMF but its a good idea if you drive aggressively or will be going for 200++ in the future! Stage 1 will work for you!
 

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We now have 5 confirmed people on the group buy (deposits paid) and 2 other people who I am waiting for deposits from so we have a guaranteed £50 saving from the prices listed on my website, with the potential for further savings if more people join in over the next 2 weeks.
To ensure that all orders are fulfilled on time, I will be submitting a provisional order to SouthBend for all the people who have paid deposits. This will be at the end of the week.

Please get in touch if you want to get on board.

Thanks

Ryan
 

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ryanp

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We now have 6 deposits and 3 people we are waiting on deposits from. Once they have paid that makes it up to 9!!!

Had a few more emails as well so I am hoping to break the 10 barrier before the end of today!!

Thanks to everyone
 

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PLEASE IGNORE THIS POST, THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BELOW IS FALSE. RYAN P CLAIMS THAT THESE ARE THE NEWLY DESIGNED SILENT DESIGNS. I STAND CORRECTED.


This thread is potentially misleading, and thus I feel the need to set the record straight for those who have already ordered, or plan to order soon. My information comes directly from Jon at SBC, and feel free to contact him yourself by emailing jon@southbendclutch.com. The new "Silent Design" clutch and flywheel just released this September are NOT AVAILABLE FOR ANY TDI APPLICATION.

What Darkside Developments sells from its website as the "SouthBend Silent Single Mass Flywheel & Clutch Kit" is NOT the "Silent Design" clutch kit just released by SBC. Dark Side is merely marketing / listing the product as "Silent."

Case and point, take a look at the exact same product on ID parts (02J version). NOWHERE on IDparts is this product ever advertised as "silent" and it is the same product that is being sold by DarkSide.

The review at Audiforums.com is a review of the actual "silent" clutch design but that exact product IS ONLY AVAILABLE FOR GASSERS.

DarkSide may be doing those in the UK a favor by bringing this product over there and also by providing a group-buy with discounted prices. The product itself is very good and quiet--I have no qualms with the actual product.

These are the facts and the facts only, I am not editorializing -- you make your own conclusions about what this means to you.
 
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Please get your facts straight before posting, these are being ordered as tdi specific and will be exactly that when delivered. Southbend have our supplied stock tdi clutch and flywheels to use for the production peices.
 

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If that's the case, can you 100% without a doubt confirm that the product sold here is different than the one you are selling?

If you confirm that as a fact, I stand corrected. I just spoke to Jon on the phone and got the info from him. Apologies for any confusion.
 

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I can 100% confirm that all the kits we are supplying are specified as silent models, as discussed over the last few weeks.

I would have probably got in touch via PM before posting something like this on a public forum where i conduct business.
 

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Ok, my sincere apologizes then. I stand corrected. When I spoke to Jon on the phone, he mentioned that there were no plans for a silent TDI version, which is from where the confusion stems.

Do you know if this is an exclusive to DarkSide production run?

If so, I guess this means that I'll need to buy one :).
 

ryanp

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Btw, we are not discounting the kit prices, mearly passing the shipping savings onto our customers.

Please edit your post if you stand corrected.
 
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