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Old February 3rd, 2013, 14:34   #1
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Default Block heater or frost heater...anyone have one?

Hi everyone,

Just wondering if any of you have a block heater or a frost heater on your TDI. I read on the forum that the canadian cars came with the frost heater. Ihave no idea if my 2003 TDI has this. Dont even know where to look or if it would have a plug like a traditional block heater.

If someone has one...if you could post some pics that would be great.

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Old February 3rd, 2013, 14:47   #2
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No A4 Jetta's came with a block heater from the factory. Most folks retro fit in a frost heater per se. You will see this fitted in line with the oil cooler. Have a search on the forums and take a look. Canadian Tire and Partsource sell the frost heater.
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 14:54   #3
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Thats great that Canadian Tire sells them. There is one just a couple of mins from my place. Might have to go check it out.

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Old February 3rd, 2013, 15:31   #4
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To be clear, Canadian Tire sells coolant heaters, like this Temco unit:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

To be used on our TDIs you will also need to fab a mounting bracket and track down a specific hose that goes in place of one of the existing oil cooler hoses.

You can also buy an actual Frostheater, which is a complete kit including the coolant heater, the bracket, the specific hoses and clamps, etc, from Terry:

www.frostheater.com


All depends on how much DIY you want to do.

It's also worth noting that "frostheater" is a great search term to use here... hundreds and hundreds of threads on this, the pros and cons of rolling your own, etc etc etc.
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 15:35   #5
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Cool. Thanks for the clarification. I checked out the 'frost heater' and it seems like they have done a great job withe the product and installation instructions. I wonder if the Canadian Tire unit has GOOD clear instructions.
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 17:32   #6
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Cool. Thanks for the clarification. I checked out the 'frost heater' and it seems like they have done a great job withe the product and installation instructions. I wonder if the Canadian Tire unit has GOOD clear instructions.
No instructions . Great diy on the forums , many posts on this topic in the ontario section .

I've done the CT one and its not that hard, but didn't fit as nice as the Frostheater .
My recomendation , spend the little more on the Frostheater you won't regret it .
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 18:11   #7
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Yes, I think the Frostheater one is the way to go. Will order one this week.
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 18:36   #8
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It's febuary...worst is over now...haven't plugged in once this winter, that is probably it...
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 19:15   #9
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It's febuary...worst is over now...haven't plugged in once this winter, that is probably it...
Been using the frostheater on my 01 religiously, but it stays outside .
My wife's Golf resides in the garage , and has been fine with out it as it's been sitting on the bench.


Added the FrostHeater I had on the bench into the Golf today .. Did the ThermoStat and Temp Sensor so I got everything done while the coolant was drained .

Was doing good .. had caught all the coolant .. even when I pulled the oil cooler line for the FrostHeater . Then I pulled the temp sensor and had Niagara Falls off the back of the motor (first time changing one) .. DOH!! good thing I keep a good amount of absorball on hand ..

I'm still amazed the golf has an intact factory belly pan and sides .

Temp gauge is now pegged at 90 degrees and blowing lots more heat .. was reading 60 degrees at operating temp in VCDS.
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 20:48   #10
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Cool. Thanks for the clarification. I checked out the 'frost heater' and it seems like they have done a great job withe the product and installation instructions. I wonder if the Canadian Tire unit has GOOD clear instructions.
Identical heating units (They are Temro), only difference is the custom hoses with the 'Frostheater' kits...
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....and the laser cut bracket that fits perfectly on the base of the battery box,and the loom for both hoses, and the detailed instructions, and the over-the-phone support, and the bag of M&Ms

Not affiliated with Frostheater in any way BTW...just a happy customer. I have two Jettas and have tried both approaches...like I say...it all hinges on how much DIY you are comfortable with.
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....and the laser cut bracket that fits perfectly on the base of the battery box,and the loom for both hoses, and the detailed instructions, and the over-the-phone support, and the bag of M&Ms
Not affiliated with Frostheater in any way BTW...just a happy customer. I have two Jettas and have tried both approaches...like I say...it all hinges on how much DIY you are comfortable with.
.....and the extra what.... $70? You forgot to mention that.

Regardless of what kit the OP goes with, a coolant heater is the best thing you can do for your TDI in the winter.
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Im definitely going to check out the unit Canadian Tire has. Im pretty handy and can fab up brackets, etc no problem. So if I can save some $$$ might just go with the Canadian Tire one.
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Im definitely going to check out the unit Canadian Tire has. Im pretty handy and can fab up brackets, etc no problem. So if I can save some $$$ might just go with the Canadian Tire one.
The brackets that come with the retail Temro kit are fine... It's a dead easy install.. Hang it off the battery bracket, splice into the lower oil cooler hose, then back into the hose below the vac pump. Simple stuff.
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A less complicated option is an oil pan warmer. I have one on the '99.5. Just starred using it a couple of weeks ago and it's great.
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