Tornado TDI
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There is one guy on this forum who moved to California from Ontario (I think) and imported his car and now neither VW Canada or VW America seem to want to help him.
Sounds like the departments involved are suffering from the typical over-worked, under-paid syndrome. Its not totally clear in this article, but I also get the feeling that there just isn't the appetite in the Canadian government to pursue this to the same extent. I really hope I'm wrong on this though!Apparently the change in government may have thrown a monkey wrench in the Can mix (hopefully good for us consumers).
http://www.nationalobserver.com/201...sled-canadians-about-volkswagen-investigation
I think it's fines (6 mil per incident, could each car, or model, or year be an incident?, all profits from the sales, and jail time).. Not the same as US and EPA, but it has some teeth. Also not sure what we can do about the fraud aspect.All of the wording thus far has stated "technical fixes and solutions" not buybacks. I also understand that the buyback option in the USA was very much against VW's wishes. It would not surprise me one bit if VW pursues the "technical fix" line in Canada and does not go the "buyback" route, given that Transport Canada and the legal system don't have anywhere near the teeth that US EPA and the legal system there have.
Our main hope is that the EPA and CARB don't approve any of the "technical fixes" ...
My instinct tells me that you're probably right on this: VW will try to pursue the "fix" idea up here instead of buybacks. Their language in regards to Canadian solutions has definitely changed sinced April: perhaps they didn't believe that they would end up spending as much as they actually did in the U.S. and now they want to minimize their costs in Canada. Could also be that they are negotiating penalities right now (which is the part of the settlement that would not mirror what's been done in the current buyback, due to the difference in possible penalties between the two countries), which is what's causing them to say "we hope to provide something similar to the U.S. settlement" to Canadians.All of the wording thus far has stated "technical fixes and solutions" not buybacks. I also understand that the buyback option in the USA was very much against VW's wishes. It would not surprise me one bit if VW pursues the "technical fix" line in Canada and does not go the "buyback" route, given that Transport Canada and the legal system don't have anywhere near the teeth that US EPA and the legal system there have.
Our main hope is that the EPA and CARB don't approve any of the "technical fixes" ...
I really, REALLY hope that the $6 mill per incident is per vehicle: that would have some teeth (100,000 x 6,000,000 = buyback!).I think it's fines (6 mil per incident, could each car, or model, or year be an incident?, all profits from the sales, and jail time).. Not the same as US and EPA, but it has some teeth. Also not sure what we can do about the fraud aspect.
I'm going with "and solutions" having a buyback option. At the rate it's going I can't imagine them being allowed to get away with another 6 months (min) of stalling - I don't think that'd appease the class action either.
Oh! Yes, I like this . Thank goodness for VW that Tim Hortons seems to have backed away from getting rid of Timbits.Somewhere in a locked boardroom at Tim Horton's head office in Ontario, a VW executive is hammering out a deal to pay us out in Timbits......
Where are you getting 2018 from? VW Canada specifically stated the proceedings will be finalized on, or before July 28th, 2016, then we will have a plan. Rumours have it that buy backs will commence in the fall.I don't see VW's fix plan for Canada working at all.
We may not know about any fix until May 2018. How long will implementation take? Another couple of years? So Canadian owners could effectively be held hostage for up to 5 years or take the hit on resale values, if they can be sold at all.
What would such a plan do to TDI resale values? Why would anyone buy one under these circumstances?
Get real VW.
Exactly: progress update on or before July 29th. (I'm guessing it won't be early). Quote below is from vwemissionsinfo.ca. Anyone else find its a coincidence that this is very close to the preliminary approval date in the U.S.?No, there'll be an update on Canadian court proceedings on July 29th. All the rhetoric from VW Canada so far since the US agreement has focussed on a fix for all gens, no mention of buy backs.
Maybe they'll hand out coupons for a Malone tune/Buzzken exhaust upgrade to every person who comes in for the "fix"?I don't see VW's fix plan for Canada working at all.
We may not know about any fix until May 2018. How long will implementation take? Another couple of years? So Canadian owners could effectively be held hostage for up to 5 years or take the hit on resale values, if they can be sold at all.
What would such a plan do to TDI resale values? Why would anyone buy one under these circumstances?
Get real VW.
I don't think that is a good idea after reading the FAQs below.Did anyone here sign up with Merchant Law Group LLP www.merchantlaw.com Class Action?
Second this! They got some bad press for sending out emails asking for retainer fees (or some sort of fee): another group was chosen to actually represent the main class action. I think Merchant Law might actually still be handling a couple of lawsuits though.I don't think that is a good idea after reading the FAQs below.
https://www.strosbergco.com/class-actions/vw/faq.56eab6b305eac.htm
State of California agreed on 85% of TDi either bought back or "fixed"Ontario will definitely want them off the road and will refuse license if they cannot meet the manufacturers specifications for pollutants.
The buyback also is reduced when/if we take it as we loose the tax credit for trade in which adds up on a $20k car.
I never planned on selling tho. The wife gets the new one and I take the 4-5 year old to work until it gives up the ghost, except the 2006 Golf just hangs in there so no reason for a new one yet.
I don't think that is a good idea after reading the FAQs below.
https://www.strosbergco.com/class-actions/vw/faq.56eab6b305eac.htm
Hmmm wish I would have seen that before I signed up. Though reading it my copy was signed & dated Jan 29, 2016 so it looks like I am not legally bound to have them represent me. Not sure how I even found them in the first place. I did receive a letter from them a few weeks ago but lost interest after the 1st 3 or 4 lines of legal speak.Second this! They got some bad press for sending out emails asking for retainer fees (or some sort of fee): another group was chosen to actually represent the main class action. I think Merchant Law might actually still be handling a couple of lawsuits though.
Also, the situation in Canada could be worse (hopefully it doesn't become worse), as VW in Germany isn't even going to see any fines from this whole thing.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ng-fines-in-germany-as-payout-pressure-mounts