VW settlement

FXDL · Apr 3, 2017

As I understand March 31st 2017 was the final day and they are to start paying out to us in Canada with the dirt diesels.
So are they or they going to keep stalling or they get to it it and pay us?

Peytron · Apr 3, 2017

The judge said he didn't think the deal was good enough. April 7th they will be back in court.

GoFaster · Apr 3, 2017

The process is not expected to start until end of April and that's assuming the courts do what they did in the US - dismiss and reject all the objections. If they are sent back to the negotiation table, it could be months.

Cheekee · Apr 3, 2017

I bought a new F150 last week ..... as soon as it is delivered , I'm parking my 2012 Jetta and keeping fire and theft coverage only on it .... it's about 500 kms shy of its' extended warranty expiring , and I'll be damned if I'm going to get stuck with a big repair bill right before I hand it back ...... I hope this gong show is over soon, and that we get a decent , expedient settlement ...... Good luck everyone ! Cheers

steve6 · Apr 3, 2017

http://globalnews.ca/news/3349791/volkswagen-diesel-owners-displeased-with-deal/

mrrhtuner · Apr 3, 2017

Cheekee said:
I bought a new F150 last week ..... as soon as it is delivered , I'm parking my 2012 Jetta and keeping fire and theft coverage only on it .... it's about 500 kms shy of its' extended warranty expiring , and I'll be damned if I'm going to get stuck with a big repair bill right before I hand it back ...... I hope this gong show is over soon, and that we get a decent , expedient settlement ...... Good luck everyone ! Cheers

What big repair bill? Does the car no diesel anymore and provide excellent km/L of use?

Seem's that most true VW TDI owner's are the ones that disregard this fiasco and keep on racking up the KM's without a worry.

TDIFred · Apr 3, 2017

I'm like that guy in the news article, in limbo, caught between borders.

Silver02TDI · Apr 3, 2017

FXDL said:
As I understand March 31st 2017 was the final day and they are to start paying out to us in Canada with the dirt diesels.
So are they or they going to keep stalling or they get to it it and pay us?

Be glad that the judge actually gave a damn and wants to be sure we are being fairly compensated. If he wants another week, he can have it. And yes, I am anxious as well since I am in the market for a new car as we speak. But, I don't like getting screwed compared to the US settlement. And as the judge pointed out, under the Consumer Protection Act we'd be entitled to a full refund.

imo000 · Apr 3, 2017

mrrhtuner said:
What big repair bill? Does the car no diesel anymore and provide excellent km/L of use?
Seem's that most true VW TDI owner's are the ones that disregard this fiasco and keep on racking up the KM's without a worry.

Some TDI owners thik they are sitting on a good mine.

shak911 · Apr 3, 2017

I am parking my 2012 as soon as I find my Mazda, looking now and my Passat seems to sense it, engine makes a strange sound when first started, and 2 weeks ago the Adblu heater went.

So it looks like it is going to be a cash deal for me but here is what I don't get..why the buyback is based on wholesale values ? we did not pay wholesale, we paid retail, shouldn't the buyback be based on retail ?

Am I missing something here ? I haven't come across this while browsing this forum. I feel for those who objected, where current buyback offer does not even satisfy the balance still owing on their car, like that lady on the news last Friday.

Savageman69 · Apr 4, 2017

i feel so cheated...vw owes me 70k like it cost new the jerks lol

993er · Apr 4, 2017

Remember the old Red Rose tea commercial. Well nowhere is slogan "Only In Canada" more fitting.

I wonder, did the US deal get finalized and the owners reimbursed already?

steve6 · Apr 4, 2017

mrrhtuner said:
What big repair bill? Does the car no diesel anymore and provide excellent km/L of use?

Seem's that most true VW TDI owner's are the ones that disregard this fiasco and keep on racking up the KM's without a worry.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=475883

could you imagine if this happened a few weeks away from getting a 10-20k check, and now you owe 10k? Few and far between, but not worth the gamble.

993er, people are already trading in their cars in the USA, since late jan/feb.

Silver02TDI · Apr 4, 2017

shak911 said:
So it looks like it is going to be a cash deal for me but here is what I don't get..why the buyback is based on wholesale values ? we did not pay wholesale, we paid retail, shouldn't the buyback be based on retail ?

Exactly my thought. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kelley Blue Book, which they are using in the states, is market value. And they are getting a 20% premium on top of the KBB value, before their bigger cash oops money.

TDIFred · Apr 4, 2017

they can have my leaky US car already, b@$t@ge$.

993er · Apr 4, 2017

steve6 said:
993er, people are already trading in their cars in the USA, since late jan/feb.

I thought so. As usual, Canada is always behind in everything. Everything always so drawn out.

I won't be trading mine in; taking the buyout instead.

Too many unknowns. Long term reliability as per recognized reports (and I am not interested in hearing some owners experiences), the stigma now attached to TDIs should I want to sell or trade later if the car is nothing but problems, etc.

TDIFred · Apr 4, 2017

993er said:
I thought so. As usual, Canada is always behind in everything. Everything always so drawn out.

I won't be trading mine in; taking the buyout instead.

Too many unknowns. Long term reliability as per recognized reports (and I am not interested in hearing some owners experiences), the stigma now attached to TDIs should I want to sell or trade later if the car is nothing but problems, etc.

at least you have options. the longer this goes on, the less likely keeping it is an option. US cars might not pass new emissions tests, then what do we do? the grey zone just got murkier/

Cheekee · Apr 4, 2017

steve6 said:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=475883
could you imagine if this happened a few weeks away from getting a 10-20k check, and now you owe 10k? Few and far between, but not worth the gamble.
993er, people are already trading in their cars in the USA, since late jan/feb.

Thanks Steve, that's just one of the posts I was looking for ... there are a lot more in the same boat ....... I'm glad Mrrhtuner loves his TDI's , but it's just a freaking car to me ..... I'm so ready to put this garbage behind me , and get on with life ..... Cheers

ludikris · Apr 4, 2017

I recently had my 2015 tdi in for DEF fluid leaking. While it was there I had them do the reflash as per the letter I received.. I hope you are all booking your appointments for the reflash. In my letter, if you don't get it done, you forfeit any choice of reimbursement / buyback etc..
On the plus, I don't notice any difference whatsoever in performance.
I too am also driving the piss out of my tdi knowing full well that the value of my vehicle is based on the blue book of Sept 2015 when I was given the 2 credit cards and my mileage documented.. Im now at 73,000+ km and this will be a win for me.... I just wonder how long we can drag this out before we have to allow vw to buy it back..

cRaZyRaVr · Apr 5, 2017

ludikris said:
I recently had my 2015 tdi in for DEF fluid leaking. While it was there I had them do the reflash as per the letter I received.. I hope you are all booking your appointments for the reflash. In my letter, if you don't get it done, you forfeit any choice of reimbursement / buyback etc..
On the plus, I don't notice any difference whatsoever in performance.
I too am also driving the piss out of my tdi knowing full well that the value of my vehicle is based on the blue book of Sept 2015 when I was given the 2 credit cards and my mileage documented.. Im now at 73,000+ km and this will be a win for me.... I just wonder how long we can drag this out before we have to allow vw to buy it back..

What letter? I didnt get any. 2012 TDI.

993er · Apr 5, 2017

cRaZyRaVr said:
What letter? I didnt get any. 2012 TDI.

The "fix" is for 2015 models only at the moment. And they may never have one for the older models.

rhskcdn · Apr 6, 2017

Silver02TDI said:
Exactly my thought. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kelley Blue Book, which they are using in the states, is market value. And they are getting a 20% premium on top of the KBB value, before their bigger cash oops money.

That's my understanding as well. I'm not interested in the wholesale value they are offering. I'd like a fair market value.

imo000 · Apr 7, 2017

rhskcdn said:
That's my understanding as well. I'm not interested in the wholesale value they are offering. I'd like a fair market value.

If you don't like the deal then keep your car!

rhskcdn · Apr 7, 2017

imo000 said:
If you don't like the deal then keep your car!

OR I can register my complaint with the lawer$ regarding the $ettlement offer, as I did. Wait and see now... written submissions due today

. While I didn't buy an extended warranty, I do think that those who did should be compensated for what they paid for it.

I may well keep it and sell it privately. Based on what I've seen on kijiji lately, I might get more for it.

imo000, for someone without a horse in the race, your replies come across as being a little hot headed and confrontational

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imo000 · Apr 11, 2017

rhskcdn said:
OR I can register my complaint with the lawer$ regarding the $ettlement offer, as I did. Wait and see now... written submissions due today . While I didn't buy an extended warranty, I do think that those who did should be compensated for what they paid for it.

I may well keep it and sell it privately. Based on what I've seen on kijiji lately, I might get more for it.

imo000, for someone without a horse in the race, your replies come across as being a little hot headed and confrontational .

This mass hysteria is extremely fascinating to me.

TDIFred · Apr 11, 2017

this might seem too good to be true, AND a little misleading:

Did you see this? They now have a department for those that imported into Canada covered by the US settlement.

Did you see this?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3538...91923981493344

They now have a special team where people that imported the cars into Canada are covered

1-844-982-5246 and at the first menu choose 8

I am thinking this applies to people who exported from US after the Sept. 2015 scandal broke. We await a response from VW.

993er · Apr 12, 2017

rhskcdn said:
I'm not interested in the wholesale value they are offering. I'd like a fair market value.

Are you forgetting the $5950 you'll get on top of the CBB value?

I am getting within $3150 of what I paid for my 2013 Jetta out the door.
Not bad for 3.5 years of driving.

rhskcdn · Apr 13, 2017

993er said:
Are you forgetting the $5950 you'll get on top of the CBB value?
I am getting within $3150 of what I paid for my 2013 Jetta out the door.
Not bad for 3.5 years of driving.

I wish I were that close.

2014 Sportwagon Comfortline 6s with 65K kms.
CBB Value $17,350 + bonus $5,950 = $23,250

We paid $33,300 after fees/taxes in Jan. 2014 (I've deducted the extra set of wheels/tires + extra 2yr warranty my wife bought).

A difference of $10K or $9K if I also include the $1K in gift cards. Of course, with the car still under VW warranty, we have $500 in credit at our local dealer.

Silver02TDI · Apr 15, 2017

rhskcdn said:
imo000, for someone without a horse in the race, your replies come across as being a little hot headed and confrontational .

He's being his normal self

disisme · Apr 19, 2017

Cheekee said:
I bought a new F150 last week ..... as soon as it is delivered , I'm parking my 2012 Jetta and keeping fire and theft coverage only on it .... it's about 500 kms shy of its' extended warranty expiring , and I'll be damned if I'm going to get stuck with a big repair bill right before I hand it back ...... I hope this gong show is over soon, and that we get a decent , expedient settlement ...... Good luck everyone ! Cheers

Unfortunatly there is no fix for 2012 jetta only the 15's.

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