tollerTDI
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Edmunds.com just updated the new date for the POLO.
Check this out...
http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/polo/2013/
Check this out...
http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/polo/2013/
To clarify, it is true that the Polo is offered with smaller engines than the Golf, but the Golf is also offered with the smaller more efficient 1.6 TDI, and the 7-speed DSG, and Bluemotion stuff --- elsewhere.The Polo is about 1 foot shorter than the Golf and offers smaller engines for better fuel economy. I would imagine the 1.6 turbo diesel could probably hit 50 mpg EPA.
Just what I want, small for easy maneurving and parking in big city traffic, better fuel economy than Golf, and great looks. Way better looking than Fiesta, Fit, Mini, etc. I have a Golf and I like it a lot, but I'd really like something smaller.
Like Rauss, I gave up on waiting on the Polo and ordered a Golf. I have little confidence that they'll come bring it over in 2013, and even less that they'll have a diesel here. Too bad, I would have wanted one. But the 2 door Golf coming my way in a few weeks will be fine.
And TDIMeister, lots of companies have introduced a new model in the spring of the preceding year. And some will do it with the next generation of existing models, skipping a model year in the process. If I'm not mistaken, Porsche has done this once or twice. And the 2012 CC was introduced very early in 2011. I was told the 2011 CC was in the market by itself for only three months or so.
No Golf would be a disaster. IMHO it's the last really interesting VW available in N. America.I think it's more likely we'll get some kind of Latin American constructed version of the UP and the Golf will either have production moved to Brazil or Mexico, or go away all together in its next generation. No Polo.
I think it is all in how hatches have been marketed in the states. I've been driving since the mid 80's, and at that time, the only hatches available were entry-level "econo-boxes", esp, from the domestic makes (Chevy Chevette & Citation, Ford Fiesta & Escort, Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon). Those cars were typically not available with sport options, or upgraded options, interiors, etc. So, like the diesel got a bad stigma from the 80's, so did hatches. That said, I too prefer hatches and wagons -- MUCH more practical than their sedan/coupe counterparts, and can be just as good looking if well designed (IMHO, domestic makes never made a good looking hatch -- esp. the Chevy Cavalier and its sister-make clones -- at the time, I would have much rather had the coupe than the ugly hatch, despite the hatch being more practical). I would love a BMW 1-series hatch if they'd sell it here (120d or 123d please). Wagons seem to have suffered a similar fate. People think of the 70's fake-wood-paneled Ford Country Squire and Pontiac Safari wagons. I have a 2000 323i wagon, and a 2012 Jetta Sportwagon TDI on order -- but I'm not the typical US buyer.Americans' desire for sedans (or lack of desire for hatchbacks) is a mystery to me.
The MINI Cooper ( and Cooper S) is a two for hatch.After owning a lot of both I really can't see buying another sedan. It only seems to make sense to me is in a big luxury car. If I weren't keeping IBW I would have bought a Sportwagen. But since I am, the 2 door golf is a great option. I'm not sure there's another 2 door hatch on the market in the US. I thought maybe the Accent or Kia Rio, but it seems they are both 5 doors now.
Actually it was the 318ti that was the hatch. But, for BMW it was the marketed as the bottom of the barrel, with only the 1.8l four cylinder available, and drum brakes in the back. Had they offered a 325ti as well, the hatch might have sold better. BMW is uses this failed experiment as reason not to import the 1-series hatchback. Yet, at the same time, they bring that 5 series GT abomination instead of the 5-series Touring. A wagon, or a near-vertical hatch is MUCH more useful the the "fastback" type hatch that the 5 series GT and 318ti are. Of course, my main problem with the 5-series GT (aside from the fact that we no longer get the touring) is not that it is s thick, heavy, tallish crossover thing that is neither a good car, or good SUV. It is just an over priced Honda Cross Tour with RWD or AWD instead of FWD. I absolutely hate that so many mfgs are replacing wagons in our market with SUV's and Crossovers.Of course. I knew I was forgetting something. Fiat 500, too. There were a few hatches in the 80s, and 90s that weren't totally econoboxes: Mazda 626, VW Dasher, BMW 318i, even that small M-B based on the C-Class. And now we do have the Audi A7 and that enormous BMW, whatever it's called.
I think that part of what did wagons in is the same thing that is doing in manual transmissions -- dealers don't stock 'em. A large percentage of people want instant gratification, and will only choose from what is in dealers' lots. I don't think many dealers stocked the wagons when they were available (with the exception of VW). For example, I was at the local BMW dealer to get some small parts for my BMW, and was checking out the new ones. They didn't have one manual transmission ANYTHING on the lot (except for a single pre-owned Z4).I don't know what did wagons in, maybe it was the Country Squire.
Yes, but you'd be that much cooler in one of the first Polo's in NA .To get back OT, I waited nearly a year for the Polo before getting a Golf. I'd be reluctant to wait another six months only to be disappointed.
Good luck with that, as Audi is not bringing the next-generation A6 wagon to the US. Also, A6's are already not available with a manual transmission, as is also the case for the A4 Avant here. Also, the A3 TDI can't even be had with a manual here, nor can quattro. Currently, the only manual transmission Audi that can be had in the use is a 2.0T (gas powered) A3.