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Old January 2nd, 2018, 15:50   #1
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Hey everyone! Seeing if anyone else has had their fuel gel up this past week!

Iíve been driving diesels since 2002 (15 years) and Iíve never had a car gel up!
Makes me think the fuel distributer didnít treat the last batch?

My 07 MB gelled up in VT (where it hit -20)
My 15 sportwagen gelled in my driveway (Boston)
And my fathers 17í MB gelled in his driveway (Boston)
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 16:44   #2
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I think my fuel sender check valve got clogged. Fuel doesnít need to do much gelling if that isnít drilled out I guess. Anything could clog it but I think the cold weather might gel treated fuel that is mixed with untreated fuel at the filling station. Is The power service 9-1-1 sold out everywhere? If so, the suppliers probably didnít weatherize good enough
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 18:45   #3
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A nearby TDI owner and IDParts customer had his '99.5 Golf quit at the end of my street on Sunday. I'm not sure if it was fuel gelling or a bad crank position sensor, which took out my '99.5 a couple winters ago. But I'm starting to see a pattern with cars fueled in MA.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 19:15   #4
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One car the 07 R-class was fueled at RoJo’s in Norwood. It gelled , but to be fair I was in VT and it hit -20

My VW (2015) and my Dad’s MB were both fired on RT 138. Where it meets Route 128. Canton /Milton line

Looks like that fuel was not treated!
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 19:58   #5
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Looks like that fuel was not treated!
Or not treated enough.

Some white bottle power service through the winter at each fill up costs very little and avoids gelling issues.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 20:19   #6
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Or not treated enough.
Some white bottle power service through the winter at each fill up costs very little and avoids gelling issues.

The point of this thread is that I know all this. Even the winter of 2015, where the average temp in Boston was 16 degrees! I had zero issues. No treatment! I stopped treating my fuel because it was a waste of time. Never gelled, 15 years!

Looks like the MA fuel source has changed for the worse.

And shame on me for being lazy all these years. I knew better!
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 10:05   #7
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There's a couple of things I try and do for fuel:

1) starting in October, I only fill 5 gallons at a time and let it get to the low fuel warning before buying another 5 gallons, until January. I figure it takes a station a while to move the fuel through a few times to ensure that the fuel is all sufficiently treated.
2) I use a winterized Redline fuel treatment. Religiously.

But this winter, I'm having troubles with worn ignition switches dying in the cold. In my wife's 2 cars, anyway. My 4-dr I'm the original purchaser, and I've never hung other keys on the fob. Hers - we don't know their history, but judging by the feel, previous owners have been hanging their workout barbells on the fob. Subsequently, on the coldest mornings, we are seeing ignition switch refusals to start.

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Old January 3rd, 2018, 10:49   #8
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I've never hung other keys on the fob.
Silly as it sounds, this is important. I never hang additional keys on the fob of any car and I've never had an ignition switch fail.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 17:56   #9
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The point of this thread is that I know all this. Even the winter of 2015, where the average temp in Boston was 16 degrees! I had zero issues. No treatment! I stopped treating my fuel because it was a waste of time. Never gelled, 15 years!
Looks like the MA fuel source has changed for the worse.
And shame on me for being lazy all these years. I knew better!
I wasn't meaning to tell you something you already knew, just putting the info out there.

My car does start better with the white bottle PS in the tank though, and my 2003 sprinter starts much better with white bottle power service in the tank, well, it starts just fine to -24* F, but it is MUCH quieter if I treat my winter fillups with white bottle power service.
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Silly as it sounds, this is important. I never hang additional keys on the fob of any car and I've never had an ignition switch fail.
I do the same thing and have never had a repeat failure. But I also only use OEM when replacing that switch.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 14:39   #11
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Brian, I've been having some issues over the last week that I think are fuel related. I'm currently in the Concord, NH area.

Adding a ton of PS white to the tank didnt really help me and today the car finally got some Diesel 911 and a new fuel filter.
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I think most of the US has stopped blending D1 & D2 for winter use. Instead using additives alone to winterize the fuel. Additives alone can be somewhat hit or miss, while blending just seems to work consistently in extreme cold.
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Remember that a lot of fuel depots add additives manually. So hit or miss is probably more accurate than we realize. I have my own fuel supply at my house and dose it with Opti-Lube XPD. However, I've doubled up with Stanadyne in all my cars because of the persistent cold. Touch wood, so far, so good, but they are also all inside at night. Garages aren't heated but they rarely get to freezing.
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Had 2 cars come in to the shop gelled this week! And did have one 2011 jetta with 2.5 with 2 gal of DIRTY water in tank took out the fuel pump too!
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Not Boston, but Jersey.

I think I had a gel up today in my 2013 Passat. I filled up yesterday at an inexpensive station (not name brand) in Asbury Park, NJ. I never had an issue with gelling and I've had a diesel since 2003.

I went to go out this morning (0 degrees outside) and the car started right up as expected. After about 5-10 seconds it stumbled, and eventually stalled out. The car would turn over but immediately stall. Now the car cranks but doesn't turn over. I'm thinking it's a bad batch of fuel?
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