2010 Golf TDI Stage 2 For Sale?

elitegunslinger · Nov 3, 2014

Hey guys, I've got NJ inspection coming up in February and I know I won't pass right now. Leaving me with a few options.

Find a buyer while it's stage 2 and sell as is
Set the car back to stock and sell it someone private
Set the car back to stock and trade it in
Set the car back to stock and drive it till it dies
Pray that a modification exists to pass NJ emissions without adding the DPF back

I look forward to hearing your input, snarky or not lol.

geodug · Nov 3, 2014

I followed your project with interest and thought your home state was friendly to what you were doing.

Did something happen that you did not expect? ie: new emissions requirements

YukonLT · Nov 3, 2014

If you do put it back to stock, I call dibs on your 2Micron kit!!

elitegunslinger · Nov 3, 2014

geodug said:
I followed your project with interest and thought your home state was friendly to what you were doing.

Did something happen that you did not expect? ie: new emissions requirements

Nothing has changed, I hoped that within a year a solution to pass NJ emissions would have been found but alas 4 months till I need inspection and it hasn't been. Piss poor planning on my part so I don't feel bad, I knew it may come to this. I enjoyed my setup while I could, got about 63k on it without a hitch. Nearing 100k miles right now, not worried mechanically at all but I'll miss having my full delete so I'll probably be looking toward another TDI or a RWD gas sports car.

YukonLT said:
If you do put it back to stock, I call dibs on your 2Micron kit!!

I have the older variant of his kit, I'd sell that to you with a new filter if you'd want it.

yatzee · Nov 3, 2014

i'm not from NJ (and don't have to deal with emissions testing) - what is the requirement? Do they check for a readiness code? Do they test the exhaust?

elitegunslinger · Nov 3, 2014

yatzee said:
i'm not from NJ (and don't have to deal with emissions testing) - what is the requirement? Do they check for a readiness code? Do they test the exhaust?

They check readiness which I won't pass on a couple values. I think if I put my egr back on I may pass but I'd also fail visual (if they even look) until I make a faux cat cover.

Chockomon · Nov 3, 2014

PM me....I know of a "solution" for NJ

elitegunslinger · Nov 3, 2014

Chockomon said:
PM me....I know of a "solution" for NJ

PM'd I'll try anything at this point lol.

seth1065 · Nov 3, 2014

PM me also I may have a solution for you as well.

elitegunslinger · Nov 3, 2014

seth1065 said:
PM me also I may have a solution for you as well.

PM'd, hopefully someone has the golden ticket.

elitegunslinger · Nov 4, 2014

Spoke with my main dude for tuning (Less @ Diesel Dubs soon to be German Motorwerks I believe), here's the skinny. There is a way to pass readiness values. It involves flashing the ECU with the stock flash that contains good values then flashing again with the tune. Then your good to go unless you reset your ECU's values then the process needs to be repeated.

I can go back to stock for 350$ on the exhaust. But if that happens I'll be selling or trading it in. Also I'd be swapping the eibach pro suspension back to stock and everything else excluding the tails because I don't have those lol.

Turbodude1 · Nov 4, 2014

How much?...lol..

elitegunslinger · Nov 4, 2014

Turbodude1 said:
How much?...lol..

300$ is him swapping the exhaust and 50$ is for the tune; how much for what lol?

Edit:
Oh you mean for the whole car as is?
I'd sell it for 11.5k with everything included also have a panzer plate. Also have a set of winter 15" steelies. It's at 98k right now, 6MT 2 door.

Turbodude1 · Nov 4, 2014

elitegunslinger said:
300$ is him swapping the exhaust and 50$ is for the tune; how much for what lol?

Edit:
Oh you mean for the whole car as is?
I'd sell it for 11.5k with everything included also have a panzer plate. Also have a set of winter 15" steelies. It's at 98k right now, 6MT 2 door.

For car as is (no emissions in Maine). Oh how I wish this was a 4 door, I would be on my way down to NJ right now.

elitegunslinger · Nov 4, 2014

Turbodude1 said:
For car as is (no emissions in Maine). Oh how I wish this was a 4 door, I would be on my way down to NJ right now.

I didn't mind the 2 door, fits 4 comfortably or 5 uncomfortably lol, but I know what you mean

schreibers · Nov 5, 2014

I feel your pain! Uncertainty with a job transfer in the next year is all that's stopping me from going Stage 3 (from my three year old Stage 2 w/ DPF delete). I love my JSW don't want to have to sell but then again am hesitant to drop a lot of money into it just in case....

Thanks for the information regarding a the stock tune reflash. So does that mean after inspection you will have to reflash your ECU again? OR by copying aftermarket tune over the OEM one you're good to go with full performance of the tune + readiness values?

Thanks!

elitegunslinger · Nov 5, 2014

schreibers said:
I feel your pain! Uncertainty with a job transfer in the next year is all that's stopping me from going Stage 3 (from my three year old Stage 2 w/ DPF delete). I love my JSW don't want to have to sell but then again am hesitant to drop a lot of money into it just in case....

Thanks for the information regarding a the stock tune reflash. So does that mean after inspection you will have to reflash your ECU again? OR by copying aftermarket tune over the OEM one you're good to go with full performance of the tune + readiness values?

Thanks!

So if your old file had readiness you can flash stock then flash the tune over it and readiness stays. But you may still have readiness unless you've reset the ECU, then it needs to be flashed again.

elitegunslinger · Nov 10, 2014

Parts are coming off on the 21st; if anyone is interested let me know: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=4661070#post4661070

elitegunslinger · Nov 21, 2014

Hanging out with Les today, things look good; might be able to pass while keeping stage 2. Also probably adding a full race pipe to replace the egr up front. Will update!

bobt2382 · Nov 21, 2014

elitegunslinger said:
Hanging out with Les today, things look good; might be able to pass while keeping stage 2. Also probably adding a full race pipe to replace the egr up front. Will update!

Great! Please let us know how it turns out.

ATR · Nov 21, 2014

elitegunslinger said:
Hanging out with Les today, things look good; might be able to pass while keeping stage 2. Also probably adding a full race pipe to replace the egr up front. Will update!

sweet!
I'd love to see how that goes

elitegunslinger · Nov 21, 2014

Alright guys, looks like it will be possible to pass with a stage 2 dpf delete and also full race pipe up front. This is in my case and each may be differnt so you'll have to see when the time comes.

Unfortunately there were some technical difficulties today with one ecu tool which pushes this project being finished a little back. However Les did tune my car with an updated stage 2 with full racepipe and it is certainly an improvement. Butt dyno says I got some extra ponies/torque, I'll install the race pipe tomorrow to feel the full difference.

Had an awesome time talking cars and checking out the shop. He showed me a sweet plug and play device called the Polar FIS, it basically added the P3 gauge menus into your MFD right at the dash and was customizable. I'm debating getting a unit but it looked like an awesome alternative to the P3 and was priced well.

mishkaya · Nov 21, 2014

elitegunslinger said:
Had an awesome time talking cars and checking out the shop. He showed me a sweet plug and play device called the Polar FIS, it basically added the P3 gauge menus into your MFD right at the dash and was customizable. I'm debating getting a unit but it looked like an awesome alternative to the P3 and was priced well.

Polar FIS is definitely the ticket!

Anonymous911 · Dec 17, 2014

elitegunslinger said:
Alright guys, looks like it will be possible to pass with a stage 2 dpf delete and also full race pipe up front. This is in my case and each may be differnt so you'll have to see when the time comes.

Unfortunately there were some technical difficulties today with one ecu tool which pushes this project being finished a little back. However Les did tune my car with an updated stage 2 with full racepipe and it is certainly an improvement. Butt dyno says I got some extra ponies/torque, I'll install the race pipe tomorrow to feel the full difference.

Had an awesome time talking cars and checking out the shop. He showed me a sweet plug and play device called the Polar FIS, it basically added the P3 gauge menus into your MFD right at the dash and was customizable. I'm debating getting a unit but it looked like an awesome alternative to the P3 and was priced well.

Did you pass the NJ's emission inspection? Are they doing OBD2 readiness for Diesel cars?

elitegunslinger · Dec 18, 2014

Anonymous911 said:
Did you pass the NJ's emission inspection? Are they doing OBD2 readiness for Diesel cars?

Should have no issue in February, I will maintain readiness required for NJ while tuned and with my equipment (until I try to clear any CEL or MIL). If that happens I'll need to be flashed to pass again. Only issue is I'll need a private inspection to avoid visual.

flyfishsick · Dec 18, 2014

I don't think they do visuals in New Jersey any more? they don't care about anything ( cracked windshield, blinkers, horn, brakes, tires ) all they care about is OBD2 and gas cap presser test.

elitegunslinger · Dec 18, 2014

flyfishsick said:
I don't think they do visuals in New Jersey any more? they don't care about anything ( cracked windshield, blinkers, horn, brakes, tires ) all they care about is OBD2 and gas cap presser test.

The distinct odor of unfiltered diesel exhust combined with the rolling of coal may raise some brows. They also have a camera on the floor of their facilities, I'd rather not risk it.

elitegunslinger · Dec 23, 2014

Update from today. Plans to keep readiness values have changed. I have an ECU coming from Canada with good readiness values and the same part number.

Since my ECU didn't have good readiness values during the initial backup I would either have to run my stock pipes again for readiness values or purchase another ECU. I picked going with another ECU to save time.

This spare ECU will be used to get me through inspection and I may even just bench it and run my original unit to prevent losing readiness for future inspections.

Les figured out his proposed method works however the immobilizer code goes off and althogh the car runs it never clears off the MFD lol. This is the reason for the change in plans.

Chockomon · Dec 23, 2014

Why not just go get it inspected as soon as you can? You don't need to wait till feb

Dirtracr95 · Dec 23, 2014

Chockomon said:
Why not just go get it inspected as soon as you can? You don't need to wait till feb

This

For anyone interested in passing a visual inspection for dpf delete darkside developments has a dpf delete with a faux dpf box.

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