MethylEster
Veteran Member
Looking for any kind of feed back from those who have installed this upgrade.
80 percent kit from Peloquin
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devonutopia
Top Post Dawg
80%?? what? Where do you get the other 20%? 
I have the Peloquin diff in my 02M 6 speed box and it is awesome!
I have the Peloquin diff in my 02M 6 speed box and it is awesome!
Bob_Fout
Oil Wanker
Jason he means this:
http://www.kermatdi.com/servlet/-strse-280/80-percent-kit-from/Detail
http://www.kermatdi.com/servlet/-strse-280/80-percent-kit-from/Detail
Ed's TDI
Top Post Dawg
Cost would be my guess.Bob_Fout said:
Ed's TDI
Top Post Dawg
Well, technically speaking, it's a helluva lot cheaper to install a $100 80% kit than it would be to install a $6-800 LSD. Is that the sort of answer you needed?Bob_Fout said:I was hoping there was a technical reason
Bob_Fout
Oil Wanker
Very closeEd's TDI said:Well, technically speaking, it's a helluva lot cheaper to install a $100 80% kit than it would be to install a $6-800 LSD. Is that the sort of answer you needed?
If it provides *almost* the same benefits of a full LSD for a fraction of the cost, that would be a technical answer
Ed's TDI
Top Post Dawg
Now you're just being technical.Bob_Fout said:Very close
If it provides *almost* the same benefits of a full LSD for a fraction of the cost, that would be a technical answer
Lex4TDI4Life
Top Post Dawg
wow. would that install on the usual 5-speed 02J?
TDIMeister
Phd of TDIClub Enthusiast, Moderator at Large
As I understand it, this kit is only for the 020 transmission. Later 02A, etc. will not work.
It's good for straight-line racing, but it accelerates tire scrub during turns and associated treadwear, and shouldn't be considered as a full alternative to an ATB diff.
It's good for straight-line racing, but it accelerates tire scrub during turns and associated treadwear, and shouldn't be considered as a full alternative to an ATB diff.
Pat Dolan
Veteran Member
I would like SOMEONE to just for once state "80%" of WHAT???? Does anyone honestly believe that a little spring pressure on the tiny backside of a drive flange will transmit 80% of what goes through a final drive (which in our case could be around 3,000 lb/ft)????? Try 8% to be closer to reality.
je
Veteran Member
Here's an old thread http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=131615
It sounds like it wears and will need maintenance every 50,000 miles or so (if you call replacing it maintenance).
Your call!
It sounds like it wears and will need maintenance every 50,000 miles or so (if you call replacing it maintenance).
Your call!
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Pat Dolan
Veteran Member
Copied from the link above from a post by none other than Gary Peloquin himself (so I will assume absolute accuracy):
"This upgrade isn't something new, either. Peloquin's came out with a Stage I version with about 25 pounds of breakaway torque some five years ago, after a solid year of development and Peloquin's-style testing - which is to say severe testing. In February of 1996, Peloquin introduced the Stage II 80% Diff Upgrade with about 85 pounds of breakaway torque, obtained by further modifications to the brass washers and more preload.
The 80% is obtained by the aluminum puck seals being bolted to the differential, and doubles the pressure on the brass shims."
So, there you are (there I am?). 85 lbs - which I assume to be 85 lb/ft, but MIGHT be 85 lb. @ the radius of the tire. Might contribute to a bare tire on black ice, but can't imagine it making any significant difference on pavement or with studs on ice. Even a gutless gasser will have 100 lb/ft at the flywheel, which will be 1,250 lb/ft at the wheel. That makes it 6.8% of the required breakaway torque to transfer drive from a fully unloaded wheel to the one on dry ground.
Don't get me wrong. I am glad the product is there. I just don't appreciate vendors blowing smoke and the rest of the bobble-heads in distribution nodding approval.
I am so proud of myself. I got throught the whole process without mentioning K&N air filters or any oil additive company at all.......DOH!
"This upgrade isn't something new, either. Peloquin's came out with a Stage I version with about 25 pounds of breakaway torque some five years ago, after a solid year of development and Peloquin's-style testing - which is to say severe testing. In February of 1996, Peloquin introduced the Stage II 80% Diff Upgrade with about 85 pounds of breakaway torque, obtained by further modifications to the brass washers and more preload.
The 80% is obtained by the aluminum puck seals being bolted to the differential, and doubles the pressure on the brass shims."
So, there you are (there I am?). 85 lbs - which I assume to be 85 lb/ft, but MIGHT be 85 lb. @ the radius of the tire. Might contribute to a bare tire on black ice, but can't imagine it making any significant difference on pavement or with studs on ice. Even a gutless gasser will have 100 lb/ft at the flywheel, which will be 1,250 lb/ft at the wheel. That makes it 6.8% of the required breakaway torque to transfer drive from a fully unloaded wheel to the one on dry ground.
Don't get me wrong. I am glad the product is there. I just don't appreciate vendors blowing smoke and the rest of the bobble-heads in distribution nodding approval.
I am so proud of myself. I got throught the whole process without mentioning K&N air filters or any oil additive company at all.......DOH!
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MethylEster
Veteran Member
Thank you JE. My previous search did not pull up the above thread.je said: