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Old February 20th, 2010, 11:55   #46
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Good Points FXDL,

I agree these are only "claims" and that is all we have to go on.

I agree it might be more economical to add your own additives, but I don't want to deal with concentrated poison bottles if I don't have to. That is why I like the Sunoco stations that offer the Gold additive package for the price of regular.
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Old February 20th, 2010, 14:31   #47
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Good Points FXDL,
... but I don't want to deal with concentrated poison bottles if I don't have to. ...
A very VERY excellent point

Everytime I accidently spill a drop or two of that stuff on my fingers, I start to bad trip on how it's being absorbed through my skin, and.........
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Old February 20th, 2010, 14:44   #48
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OP needs to bump up Co-op EP3000 (= Red River Co-op), comes from Regina SK, and is sold all over western Canada (except Edmonton). Summer cetane is 46.5, winter is 44.0.

No Husky specs?
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Old February 28th, 2010, 13:14   #49
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When I asked last year in Manitoba, I was told by Red River Coop that no ones sells EP 3000 except as farm fuel.
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Old February 28th, 2010, 13:50   #50
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All Co-op diesel is EP3000 (except their mine diesel but that doesn't count).
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Old September 7th, 2010, 20:56   #51
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Here is the link to Husky's info on their DieselMax product: http://www.huskyenergy.com/ourproducts/canada/diesel/

The above link doesn't have Cetane info but it includes email address. I've only been sending emails to companies that I might personally be able to buy fuel from. I'm open to submissions of emails from any companies in Canada and I'd be happy to add them to the list in post#1 but I'm not interested in contacting every single fuel retailer in Canada personally.
Above link is broken, here is a fresh one:
http://www.huskyenergy.com/ourproduc...ada/diesel.asp

I emailed the 3 listed on that page and will get back with the response.

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Hello X, I have forwarded your question to our Technical Fuels Specialist, Lisa Xxx to provide you a formal answer...Regards X

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Old September 8th, 2010, 06:23   #52
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Diesel Fuel Brand__Cetane

Petro-Canada ULSD____46

Shell ULSD___________40
Shell Ultra___________42

Sunoco ULSD_________44 When it was called Sunoco
Sunoco Gold_________ 48 --------------//----------------
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Old September 9th, 2010, 18:56   #53
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The specification for cetane number in Canada is 40. Diesel producers usually blend a diesel with a cetane of approximately 40-42 (usually closer to 42).
The cetane improver in Husky's DieselMax additive increases the cetane number by 1-3 cetane numbers, therefore, Husky's cetane number is between 42 and 45.


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Old September 11th, 2010, 12:22   #54
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I would say it's better than Shell
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Old October 16th, 2010, 22:49   #55
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guys I live right by about 50 MASSIVE diesel containers. I'm talking millions of gallons. There is a huge trucking area where trucks from all brands come in and out all day to refill. I see trucks from Petrocan, Shell, Chevron, Autogas, Husky, every brand under the sun. They all pull up to the exact same spot to fill up.

If you really think these brands are all different you are simply mistaken! They all buy diesel from the same place.

I'd bet there are 2 taps. One normal, one with additives.

All the huge containers around me are labelled 'Seasonal Diesel' or 'Premium Diesel'.

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Old October 17th, 2010, 12:07   #56
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Does anyone know the cetane number for Refuel (loblaws)? I can't even find a place to email them...
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Old October 28th, 2010, 08:30   #57
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Narfblast long time for me to write it but here it is. Sunoco Gold and their reg., diesel fuel are diff prices when I have every been at any of their stations. Sunoco Gold is like some 8 cents or more then their reg., diesel fuel. I still believe it is better and cheaper to add your own additive of choice. I find that the Amsoil Cetane Boost works very well and Walmart 2 cycle outboard motor oil for a lub. Some where here there was a link to the test on lubs[additives] for diesel fuel and the Walmart oil scored very high on the list, not the best but high. Some scored so bad that old dirty engine oil beat them out big time. The one bad one increased wear big time, so was a waste of money and was costly to your diesel engine and fuel system. For the claims of the oil companys on their cetane ratings of their diesel fuels, I do not believe them to be that high, they are only required to have a min of 40, so why would they put out anything higher and cut their profit down. Buy some from each brand and have it tested and I bet it will come out close to the 40 and most likely some below

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Old November 1st, 2010, 20:06   #58
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Diesel Fuel Brand__Cetane

Petro-Canada ULSD____46

Shell ULSD___________40
Shell Ultra___________42

Sunoco ULSD_________44 When it was called Sunoco
Sunoco Gold_________ 48 --------------//----------------
Does anyone know the Esso ratings? I get company discounts with them, so this is what I normally use, but now questioning their ratings.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 19:41   #59
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I have recently switched from Extra Foods Gas Bar, who I understand use Diesel from ESSO. I recently replaced my Air Mass Meter and Glow Plugs, but was still getting poor mileage. I tried a local bulk fuel outlet (uses Shell Diesel) (BC government edict that Diesel must contain 5% Bio) and have been experiencing possibly 15% increase in mileage. This to me is remarkable. I asked what Cetane levels at both places, but was given the "sorry nobody knows" reply.
Although somewhat subjective, I feel that the car runs a lot more smoothly. I would like to know what levels are considered proper for my TDI. I currently have 240,000 KM on my Beetle and now I seem to have the zip it used to have. Are the Cetane levels possibly slipping throughout the market or the lack of having to post Cetane Levels is making producers a bit lax?
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Old November 10th, 2010, 22:06   #60
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Gah... so much misinformation or contradictory information.

Based on this thread, I used to use only PetroCan. Then I read that their cetane ratings were much lower, so I switched the Shell V-Power (when possible). Didn't notice much of a difference MPG or power wise.

PetroCan is an option around me. The best MPG I have ever gotten was from an Ultramar station, just south of Gravenhurst, Ontario. They don't have any info on their site (ultramar.ca), so I just emailed them.

I really wish companies were more transparent with their cetane ratings.
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