Looking for a mk2 quick ratio steering rack thread

jhax

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Good morning,


I have on a few occasions come across a thread (not sure if it was on here or vortex) where they are talking about installing a quick ratio steering rack and pinion. I specifically remember one of the replies being, "replace the guts from a manual mk2 steering rack with those of a power rack," or something along those lines. Would anyone happen to have any more information on the subject? My current 86 golf has a manual rack and I pulled the rack from an 86 jetta with power steering yesterday.



Thank You,
Justin
 

FJ40Jim

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We ran a de-powered PS rack in our 85-88 GTI race car. Worked well, but it was properly done: torn down, welded torsion bar, removed ATF, added synth grease, adjusted lash...


On a street car it is gonna be 20% heavier steering, due to the 20% quicker ratio.
 

jhax

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I'm just wanting to verify that the PS rack and pinion will be able to be placed inside the manual steering rack housing that is already in my golf.
 

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Not sure about that. I do know that the outer tie-rod assembly is different between manual & power rack. Also, the power pinion is very different, because of the torsion bar. Now that I write that down: no, the power guts won't just drop in.

Again, the easy button is to just rebuild a power rack assembly, deleting the power seals & valves, weld up the torsion shaft, lube & reassemble. No kit is needed, because it won't leak without pressure or oil inside.

Note, the PS rack has a taller pinion shaft, so the steering intermediate shaft (double u-jointed shaft from column to rack) is also different.

TLDR: Get a PS rack, complete with outer tie rod assemblies, and get the intermediate shaft that connects rack to column. Depower rack, install in car.
 
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jhax

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Thanks him. If that's the case ill just stick with the manual rack as I already bought new tie rods for it. Going to a mk3 subframe so I got mk4 tie rods for length. What about using just the PS rack and manual pinion?
 

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The tie-rod assy is different for the PS rack, because the actual rack gear is bigger? So maybe the new Mk4 TR assemblies will thread on the Mk2 power rack gear. I thought the power pinion gear had a different (higher) tooth count to get the faster ratio, so it doesn't seem like the manual & power gears could be mixed. Dunno how it all works with Mk3 subframe. We did use Mk3 4cyl GTI knuckles to get the bigger brakes, bearings & balljoints, which were weak points in endurance racing.
 

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Yep I've got mk3 everything suspension, dual piston calipers and corrado disks.
 
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