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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old January 14th, 2018, 11:18   #31
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If you decided to go big turbo you need a DSG tune with 17-18 bar clutch pressure. At 600+ nm usually the DQ250 internals fail. Need a good DSG tune and limited torque from engine.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 11:34   #32
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Good to know. I don't think anyone on this side of the pond is putting 440+ ft-lbs through the tdi dq250 dsg yet. I'm sure quite a few gti guys are.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 11:41   #33
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Just got the Wavetrac Friday...



Mac, I do have a Malone DSG tune. Will be a few weeks before pulling the DSG and installing.

New clutch discs are pretty expensive! Besides tune, what else should be done? Was considering a new DMF while I had it apart.

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Old January 14th, 2018, 12:42   #34
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I doubt you have increased clutch pressure to hold 550-600nm on that DSG. Not sure who offers that in US. Here in Europe they ask 7-1000 euro for a dsg remap..crazy prices.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 17:46   #35
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Malone will take care of me when the time comes. They can do custom DSG tuning and up the clamping pressure more if needeed.
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Old January 15th, 2018, 03:27   #36
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I doubt you have increased clutch pressure to hold 550-600nm on that DSG. Not sure who offers that in US. Here in Europe they ask 7-1000 euro for a dsg remap..crazy prices.
Do they? It's around 150-200 most places when bought with an appropriate ecu tune.

Romania must be very expensive!
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Old January 15th, 2018, 09:42   #37
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JAmie ..the do the usual sh|t tune ..no clutch pressure. Not many do it well.
I have seen TVS dsg tuning on mk5 gti doing 9.5 seconds. Nothing tops that!
Adrenalin tuning also has some strong DSG tuning.
They asked me 800 euro for DQ500 tuning ..must be crazy in NL and Germany. and 2k for a wavetrack lsd.
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Old January 16th, 2018, 06:05   #38
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In the UK we have DSG tunes at R-tech for 150 for example..Revo are also similar.
They are running 12-13 bar in some rare cases. Not often needed.

Sure APR charge 500.

Or fit the Dodson / SSP / APR packs and run at a lower pressure. :-)
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Jamie Those are the worthless cheap tunes.
Real dsg tuning is way more expensive, and you can see the difference. Its huge.
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Old January 16th, 2018, 20:51   #40
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Jamie Those are the worthless cheap tunes.
Real dsg tuning is way more expensive, and you can see the difference. Its huge.
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The worthless cheap dsg tune is on a road going S3 8P doing 10.5 1/4 mile all day.

Maybe in Romania for 150 it's rubbish.
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Keep dreaming at 10.5 s all day long without clutch pressure and reinforced dsg plates.
1450kg car ...you need 600hp or more to do that time
Now enlighten us how a clutch that a 500nm when it gets hot is already slipping like crazy ..temperature goes to 120-130degrees inside in seconds, can do that.

APR 450-500 euro dsg tune , useless.. vs 17-18 bar tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ifS7wnws10

But if you tell me that with 200€ in uk you can get a dsg tune with increased clutch pressure, i should move to uk.

I would be happy to pay 450€ for a dsg tune with increased clutch pressure for my DQ500. Just tell me where! (this is the point when Ruben says he'll do it hahahah)
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Let's just agree to disagree Mac.
Justin is a friend of mine, he runs Dodson clutchpacks at stock pressure. increased was awful gear changes.

As I said the best solution is to fit a suitable clutch to your car
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Keep dreaming at 10.5 s all day long without clutch pressure and reinforced dsg plates.
1450kg car ...you need 600hp or more to do that time
Now enlighten us how a clutch that a 500nm when it gets hot is already slipping like crazy ..temperature goes to 120-130degrees inside in seconds, can do that.

APR 450-500 euro dsg tune , useless.. vs 17-18 bar tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ifS7wnws10

But if you tell me that with 200 in uk you can get a dsg tune with increased clutch pressure, i should move to uk.

I would be happy to pay 450 for a dsg tune with increased clutch pressure for my DQ500. Just tell me where! (this is the point when Ruben says he'll do it hahahah)

BTW that S3 he quoted is AWD, no need to have 600Hp if you got crazy good 60ft times.
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Well thank you ..he runs dodson clutch :P , we were talking stock clutch and no pressure ,not 1500 euro stuff.
You do need over 550 even if awd because its always 1450kg, then we dont use sticky tracks here ..old dusty airport track.
418hp 750 nm awd A3 2.0 PD did 12s, has same weight as the S3
500hp 1000kg 2.0pd awd lupo does 10.6 , so you do need some horses for heavy cars.
1000hp gtr does 10s ..
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