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VW MKVI-A6 Golf family including Jetta SportWagen (~ 2010-2014) Discussions area for A6/MkVI (2010-2014) Golf and Golf Wagons (Jetta Sportwagon in the USA).

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Old January 16th, 2017, 04:58   #2131
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And since my last post.... another blown rear main seal.



I'll tell ya, these are becoming a weekly thing. This one is an easier one, a 2009 Eos w/ automatic. So it is FWD/DSG, the easiest of all the transmissions bolted to this junk engine to remove. Oh, and its water pump is leaking too. Has not even made it to 100k miles.
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Old January 16th, 2017, 12:23   #2132
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And since my last post.... another blown rear main seal.

I'll tell ya, these are becoming a weekly thing. This one is an easier one, a 2009 Eos w/ automatic. So it is FWD/DSG, the easiest of all the transmissions bolted to this junk engine to remove. Oh, and its water pump is leaking too. Has not even made it to 100k miles.
That 2nd generation TSI is a bear.

The 3rd generation ea888 (2015+) seems to have fixed most of the major issues that plagued previous years from what I've seen so far.
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Old January 17th, 2017, 03:56   #2133
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How do you know this? Not trying to disagree, just curious if there have actually been changes that address this. I know the later engines' valve cover is different, so the pressure regulator breather thingy that always fails on the older design is different. But only time will tell if that has been an improvement, unless there is some specific training material on those newer versions that specifically makes mention of this I will remain a "hopeful skeptic" on that front.

Otherwise, it is hard to say "they fixed it!" when the newer engines are still, well, new. I mean, the POS CCTA engine and its derivatives didn't exactly start breaking right away in 2008 either. But now, in 2017, they are a VERY well known problem child, depleting the bank accounts of a frightful many of their owners. I mean, seriously, the 2008-2011 cars (Tiguan, CC, B6 Passat, GTI, GLI, Eos, Audi A4, Q5, etc.) that come through our shop are all plagued with the same problems. Volkswagen CERTAINLY knows about this, but....
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Old January 17th, 2017, 06:25   #2134
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Thanks, Oilhammer, for the heads-up on the Tsi engines. Had thought about on of these to replace my TDi but really do not need an expensive headache! If the TDi didn't have the HPFP issue and emissions equipment issues (had to replace cracked DPF at 82K) I would probably keep it. But, at 106K now, it will potentially become a money pit for which I am currently ill equipped to deal. Looking at Volvos, BMWs, and Japanese stuff now. Going to miss the JSW though!

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Old January 18th, 2017, 21:33   #2135
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How do you know this? Not trying to disagree, just curious if there have actually been changes that address this. I know the later engines' valve cover is different, so the pressure regulator breather thingy that always fails on the older design is different. But only time will tell if that has been an improvement, unless there is some specific training material on those newer versions that specifically makes mention of this I will remain a "hopeful skeptic" on that front.
Otherwise, it is hard to say "they fixed it!" when the newer engines are still, well, new. I mean, the POS CCTA engine and its derivatives didn't exactly start breaking right away in 2008 either. But now, in 2017, they are a VERY well known problem child, depleting the bank accounts of a frightful many of their owners. I mean, seriously, the 2008-2011 cars (Tiguan, CC, B6 Passat, GTI, GLI, Eos, Audi A4, Q5, etc.) that come through our shop are all plagued with the same problems. Volkswagen CERTAINLY knows about this, but....
Here's a thread about the 3rd generation ea888:
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26886

The mk7 has been in production since 2012 in Europe. I haven't seen or heard of any major common issues (other than the early turbo and cam shaft failures)... At least not yet. I'm sure that time will tell how it shapes up.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 08:38   #2136
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Here's a thread about the 3rd generation ea888:
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26886
The mk7 has been in production since 2012 in Europe. I haven't seen or heard of any major common issues (other than the early turbo and cam shaft failures)... At least not yet. I'm sure that time will tell how it shapes up.
Here's another thread on the weak points of the mk7:

http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27257
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Old January 19th, 2017, 08:40   #2137
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Yeah, I like the A7s. Too bad no diesel after 2015, so I'll likely never own one.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 10:19   #2138
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My HPFP self destructed on 09/27/16.
Odometer was 100398.

Driving on freeway in near bumper to bumper traffic (405 in L.A.) Glow Plug light and Check Engine light came on. Car went into limp mode and pulled to shoulder within 30 sec.
Car was re-started twice for less than 1 minute each time. Both times car ran ok.

I drive my Jetta with a Bluetooth device plugged into the ODB port and the Torque app running. Torque app gave me an error code and I no longer remember the exact code but I think it translated into low pressure on the CR. I knew what it meant and I got that sinking feeling.

I had car towed to the closest VW dealer and they confirmed my worst fear.

OF COURSE they claimed it was contaminated fuel. Contrary to popular belief I am not stupid and have never put Gas in my car. Plus I had driven 300 miles since the last fill up.

I make it a point to always fill up at Chevron but therein lays a story that could make their claim plausible. The last two fill ups were made at a Chevron station that is right around the corner from me. This station only recently started selling diesel fuel. Could a tanker truck driver mistakenly put gas in a newly installed diesel tank? Could the new diesel tank have had some contamination in it to begin with?

The good news in all of this is my insurance paid all but $500. I never tried to prove the dealership lied nor did I try to prove that the gas station was selling contaminated fuel.
If any of you out there want more detailed info … like the name of the dealership PM me.
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Old August 17th, 2017, 18:12   #2139
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I've been skimming through these pages of thread and I didnt see any HPFP failures in cars over 120k miles.
I currently over 157k in my 2010 Jetta. Safe to say I got on of the good ones?
I've been thinking maybe it was a bad batch (or 2 or more) of raw materials going into HPFP?
I read through the thread of swapping out for CP3 and somwhere in between I saw that someone went to his second timing belt service at 240k miles on his original HPFP and swapped out for CP3 at that time (I assume since he was already under the hood).
Hoping for that type of luck, but keeping an eye out.
Has anyone had their HPFP fail beyond 150k?
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Old August 18th, 2017, 04:48   #2140
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The last two HPFP failures (of now the six total I have EVER seen) were both at 160k miles, both were 2014 Sportwagons, from the same medical courier fleet.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 06:37   #2141
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2013 Jetta TDI
My HPFP self destructed on 09/27/16.
Odometer was 100398.

Driving on freeway in near bumper to bumper traffic (405 in L.A.) Glow Plug light and Check Engine light came on. Car went into limp mode and pulled to shoulder within 30 sec.
Car was re-started twice for less than 1 minute each time. Both times car ran ok.

I drive my Jetta with a Bluetooth device plugged into the ODB port and the Torque app running. Torque app gave me an error code and I no longer remember the exact code but I think it translated into low pressure on the CR. I knew what it meant and I got that sinking feeling.

I had car towed to the closest VW dealer and they confirmed my worst fear.

OF COURSE they claimed it was contaminated fuel. Contrary to popular belief I am not stupid and have never put Gas in my car. Plus I had driven 300 miles since the last fill up.

I make it a point to always fill up at Chevron but therein lays a story that could make their claim plausible. The last two fill ups were made at a Chevron station that is right around the corner from me. This station only recently started selling diesel fuel. Could a tanker truck driver mistakenly put gas in a newly installed diesel tank? Could the new diesel tank have had some contamination in it to begin with?

The good news in all of this is my insurance paid all but $500. I never tried to prove the dealership lied nor did I try to prove that the gas station was selling contaminated fuel.
If any of you out there want more detailed info like the name of the dealership PM me.
Texsize.
There was a service station in Ottawa that did the opposite: the tanker delivering diesel put it into the gasoline storage tank. Multiple customers had their cars stall, and the station had to reimburse them to have their tanks flushed and fuel systems serviced.

So yes that kind of mistake can and does happen. Glad your insurance picked up almost all of the tab.
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