www.tdiclub.com

Economy - Longevity - Performance
The #1 Source of TDI Information on the Web!
Forums Articles Links Meets
Orders TDI Club Cards TDIFest 2016 Gone, but not forgotten VAG-Com List Unit Conversions TDIClub Chat Thank You




Go Back   TDIClub Forums > VW TDI Discussion Areas > TDI Power Enhancements

TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

View Poll Results: Which turbo kir
CR190 1 11.11%
GTB2260VK 8 88.89%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old January 11th, 2019, 10:12   #1
abishoff
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Wylie, TX
Default CR190 vs GTB2260VK

Hey all. Im looking to upgrade to a CR190 kits from AARodriguez or a GTB2260VK kit from Darkside performance. any thougts on one vs the other? Below is the link for the Darkside kit. the CR190 kit isnt available on the website yet.

https://www.darksidedevelopments.co....form-2013.html
abishoff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2019, 12:06   #2
Macradiators.com
Veteran Member
 
Macradiators.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Romania
TDI(s): 2.0 CR 360hp
Default

I have a better option for you. 2056vzk or 2060vzk, plug and play and good for 270+ hp with awesome spool.
__________________
CP3 Upgrade
100-200 Acceleration
Macradiators.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2019, 15:34   #3
hevster1
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Columbia NJ
TDI(s): 98 NB
Fuel Economy: 40-42
Default

The darkside is a better choice. If you do it do the billet wheel for faster spool.
__________________
NJ's best shop performing Quality Repairs on TDI's, Toyota, Lexus, Scion and other European and Asian cars as well as Motorcycles & ATV's. Written warranty, reasonable prices. ASE L-1 & A-9 Master re-certified. NEW LOCATION: Montague NJ. Hunter Wheel Alignment. Snap-on Tire Service.I don't need to have specials, my prices are better already!
www.mmautocycle.com
hevster1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 12th, 2019, 00:30   #4
Macradiators.com
Veteran Member
 
Macradiators.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Romania
TDI(s): 2.0 CR 360hp
Default

Billet wheel doesnt give you faster spool. Its turbo size and how turbo is set that gives you spool vs rpm.
__________________
CP3 Upgrade
100-200 Acceleration
Macradiators.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 12th, 2019, 00:49   #5
adamss24
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Great Britain
Fuel Economy: 35-45mpg
Default

I have been in a vw caddy with the 105 bhp engine which had a darkside kit on it comprising of gtb 2260vk turbo, tubular manifold, larger injectors, fmic and boost pipes, tune and a set of max speeding gods forged rods. The car was a blast to drive with little lag and plenty pulling power troughout the revs. I was a bit scheptical at first as ive driven large turbos on small engines and thry were notoriously laggy and smokey however this was not the case. It only had 280 Bhp but boy the car was a blast to drive! Sadly the van got written off receently, it crashed head on with a range rover aka chelsea tractor and the range rover won!
adamss24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 13th, 2019, 08:06   #6
adjat84th
Veteran Member
 
adjat84th's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Fuel Economy: ~50 in mixed driving
Default

If you decide on CR190 there is a 56mm hybrid that is available from xman turbos that, from the little information we have on the forums, is a better solution (solves boost creep if I'm not mistaken).

Mac, you have custom oil lines for those turbos you listed to use on the EA288? The oil return is located very high up on the block, just an inch below the exhaust manifold rather than closer to the oil pan on previous CRs. A custom hard line with bellow was needed in my case. The oil feed as well has to kick out 90deg to clear the balance shaft.

CR190 hybrid would be easiest solution. Stock oil lines and downpipe work, only thing needed would be the different TIP and compressor connections from the GTD.
2260 would probably be a blast though. The kit from Darkside will have the proper items needed (they're currently test fitting on a GTD over there). The only thing I would question in that kit would be the silicone TIP as the brake booster is on the other side of the engine bay in a RHD car, so they have tons of clearance whereas it's tighter with our LHD vehicles.

Anything larger than CR190 will likely need a CP3 upgrade as well for more fuel up top.
__________________

'01 Jetta | 17/22, 3bar MAP, 11mm IP/Lift pump, PD 150, OMI, FMIC, PP502s, SBC st3, .685 5th, Malone Stage 5
'15 Golf | GTD1752vrk, 4bar MAP, CP3, Peloquin LSD, Sachs SRE w/DMF, Fluidampr
adjat84th is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 13th, 2019, 13:18   #7
Macradiators.com
Veteran Member
 
Macradiators.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Romania
TDI(s): 2.0 CR 360hp
Default

Custom lines will be available when time comes Got hydraulic shop near by, they have ptfe braided lines and can build anything for me.
Prototype will be ready in february and will run on my car for test as i have all supporting mods, just need to remove some fuel and boost and do the testing.
__________________
CP3 Upgrade
100-200 Acceleration
Macradiators.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 13th, 2019, 15:54   #8
adjat84th
Veteran Member
 
adjat84th's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Fuel Economy: ~50 in mixed driving
Default

Don't think a braided line will work on the MK7's very short return path. No other way than to go in between the runners with this tubular manifold.

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
__________________

'01 Jetta | 17/22, 3bar MAP, 11mm IP/Lift pump, PD 150, OMI, FMIC, PP502s, SBC st3, .685 5th, Malone Stage 5
'15 Golf | GTD1752vrk, 4bar MAP, CP3, Peloquin LSD, Sachs SRE w/DMF, Fluidampr
adjat84th is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 13th, 2019, 23:26   #9
Macradiators.com
Veteran Member
 
Macradiators.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Romania
TDI(s): 2.0 CR 360hp
Default

Wont be using tubular manifold as i dont see the point in increasing the price. A short manifold will be used, so much easier to connect. I am aiming for the best spool possible so long manifold is out of the question.
__________________
CP3 Upgrade
100-200 Acceleration
Macradiators.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 14th, 2019, 03:02   #10
jdub1282
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Statesville, NC
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macradiators.com View Post
Wont be using tubular manifold as i dont see the point in increasing the price. A short manifold will be used, so much easier to connect. I am aiming for the best spool possible so long manifold is out of the question.


Following!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jdub1282 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
VW Emissions fix on Passat with Malone CR190 Turbo upgrade Stage 3 tune NJ_VWPassat VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) 32 July 7th, 2017 13:59
CR190 GTD Turbo Kit for NMS Passat aullein TDI Power Enhancements 57 February 29th, 2016 13:52
CR190 2013 passat Nuttendiesel TDI Power Enhancements 8 October 3rd, 2015 22:57
F/S GTB2260vk strokedviking Private TDI Items for Sale/Wanted 8 March 26th, 2013 16:26
Gtb2260vk bopster6 TDI Power Enhancements 11 December 22nd, 2012 06:20


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:01.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright - TDIClub Online LTD - 2017
Contact Us | Privacy Statement | Forum Rules | Disclaimer
TDIClub Online Ltd (TDIClub.com) is not affiliated with the VWoA or VWAG and is supported by contributions from viewers like you.
1996 - 2017, All Rights Reserved
Page generated in 0.15821 seconds with 14 queries
[Output: 101.70 Kb. compressed to 86.93 Kb. by saving 14.77 Kb. (14.53%)]