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Alternative Diesel Fuels (Biodiesel, WVO, SVO, BTL, GTL etc) Discussions about alternative fuels for use in our TDI's. This includes biodiesel WVO (Waste Vegetable Oil), SVO (Straight Vegetable Oil), BTL (Biomass to Liquid), GTL (Gas to Liquids) etc. Please note the Fuel Disclaimer.

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Old July 27th, 2006, 12:00   #1
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Default Biodiesel Strikes again..

Well, My wife took the wagon into the dealer because of a shimmy in the steering wheel. Obviously either a wheel bearing or a unbalanced tire.. Under CPO it was replaced for free.

Well, when told about the work done, the service manager says that the tech seems to think that it's the Biodiesel that's causing the engine to not run right, causing the wheel bearing to go out. (BTW we do have a BioD sticker on it.) Because this is the second wheel bearing to go out inside of 3 months. Previously it was also the ABS sensor ring that was the problem.

We do use BioD, but only what's available locally, no homebrew.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

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Old July 27th, 2006, 12:20   #2
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Well, My wife took the wagon into the dealer because of a shimmy in the steering wheel. Obviously either a wheel bearing or a unbalanced tire.. Under CPO it was replaced for free.

Well, when told about the work done, the service manager says that the tech seems to think that it's the Biodiesel that's causing the engine to not run right, causing the wheel bearing to go out. (BTW we do have a BioD sticker on it.) Because this is the second wheel bearing to go out inside of 3 months. Previously it was also the ABS sensor ring that was the problem.

We do use BioD, but only what's available locally, no homebrew.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

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This is new, fuel causing bearing failure.
It caused the Black Plauge, Anthrax and Ebola too.
What a bunch of bunk.
Sounds an awful lot like this dealer is trying his best to do his worst.
FWIW, been in the bearing business for over 17 years.
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Old July 27th, 2006, 12:56   #3
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You have got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BioD is causing bad bearings now Guess i better be stocking up on those too
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Old July 27th, 2006, 14:41   #4
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Well, when told about the work done, the service manager says that the tech seems to think that it's the Biodiesel that's causing the engine to not run right, causing the wheel bearing to go out...
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Sure thing. My opinion of the situation is they are stone cold lying to you in an effort to remove more money from your wallet.

Biodiesel causing wheel bearings to go out? AHAHAHHAHAHHAHOEHAEEHAH

If you put a Christian/Darwin/Bass Pro Shop sticker on your car, would they tell you the tech seems to think it's the fish that's causing the engine to not run right or bearing to go bad?

On another note, how did they know you had biodiesel in the car (assuming you did at the time)? If a stealership started sampling fuel before working on the wheel bearings, they're trying to find ways to weasel out of their obligations.

Run far away from this place.

I could see if you were using biodiesel to clean your wheel bearings that it could wash out the grease and eventually cause bearing problems, but I assume you haven't been using it to do that (or fill your crankcase, as a dessert topping or as a cavity preventive dentifrice).

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Old July 27th, 2006, 14:47   #5
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You should just laugh in their faces. That's so absurd.
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Old July 27th, 2006, 14:55   #6
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We both have the BioD sticker/window cling on our cars.
I don't know if he sampled it or not. He must not have read the news that VW warranties upto B5.

I can see that a really rough running engine might cause the cv or universal joints to go because of the backlash, but a Bearing?

My cars actually run a little smoother with the Bio. And it's commercially available less than 5 miles from the house so.??

I'll keep going there as long as they keep fixing it under warranty.. When that's gone.. "Uncle" Marty aka JETaah here I come..

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Old July 27th, 2006, 14:55   #7
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ab·surd (b-sūrd, -zūrd)adj.

1.
Ridiculously incongruous or unreasonable. See Synonyms at foolish.

2.
Of, relating to, or manifesting the view that there is no order or value in human life or in the universe.

3.
Of or relating to absurdism or the absurd.


This relates to #3 relating to absurdism and the absurd
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Old July 27th, 2006, 15:20   #8
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Next thing he'll try to tell you is that the fumes from the biodiesel are what causes static on your radio. I ain't buyin' it.
You might try asking him just what about your appearance made him believe you were that stupid.
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Old July 27th, 2006, 16:24   #9
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HEY! let the dealer replace wheel bearing and have it written on repair order that biodiesel was cauise of bearing failure ,and then file a lawsuit!!!! THIS WOULD NEVER BEEN A ISSUE IN MY SHOP! its just to stupid, yeh maybe if you had a fuel system problem with bio fuel but a wheel bearing ,I DONT THINK SO!!!!!!
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Old July 27th, 2006, 16:39   #10
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Geez....just when I thought I'd heard every lame ass criticism of BioD.
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Old July 27th, 2006, 16:53   #11
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Did that dealer hire Audi5000TDI?
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Old July 27th, 2006, 17:06   #13
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Well, My wife took the wagon into the dealer because of a shimmy in the steering wheel. ...
Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Old July 27th, 2006, 17:50   #14
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This post is retracted as further along
the OP reveals the conversation was between
his WIFE and the SERVICE manager, not the
OP and the SERVICE manager.

The service manager was pulling your leg. If you
had laughed he would have laughed with you.
Now I would imagine he thinks one of two things about you.
A. You have no sense of humor.
B. You are clueless.
Or maybe a combination.... Anyway, he offered you a
chance to bond and you missed the boat.

Of course, I could be wrong too!!
You were the only one there, What do you think? Was he serious,
or pulling your leg? Keep in mind, if he was serious it might be that
he did NOT want you to come back, ever. What is your personal history
with the dealership and the service writer? Could he just be trying
to run you off?

Please understand, I am not trying to piss you off! Just offering
another possibility. the dealership may not want to service ANY
cars with bio stickers. They let their competitors be the bad guys
later down the road when claims may be denied.

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Old July 27th, 2006, 18:51   #15
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My local stealership actually has a pile of "Powered by Biodiesel" bumper stickers on the service counter. Its really a confederacy of dunces.
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