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Old October 15th, 2018, 07:52   #76
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I used to give a co-worker a bad time about his Audi TT being the same platform as my Beetle. Also the co-worker who had a Boxster. When we went to lunch, I'd ask if he wanted to take my VW or his.
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Old October 15th, 2018, 08:02   #77
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Most people who bash diesels have never driven one. Once you see the power and economy you don't go back to gasser. I'm never going to have an all electric car. Most wouldn't buy one without the crazy subsidies the govt puts on them. Talk about a waste of taxpayer money.
I would love a diesel Tiguan, but it's never going to happen in the US. I've resigned myself to this fact. Doesn't mean I like it.

But I will more than likely by electrified with my next car. I don't know if it will be a full BEV or just a plug-in hybrid, but an electrified car has that same low end power that I loved in my Passat. My daughter just replaced their Routan yesterday with the new Pacifica plug-in hybrid, and that is one sweet rig. The tax credit will just be the icing on the cake, because their monthly gas bill is going to be hugely reduced. Even just running on gas the Pacifica is rated at 32 MPG, and with a charged battery can drive 33 miles in EV mode. Compare that to the 14 MPG the Routan was getting.
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Old October 15th, 2018, 10:35   #78
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Most people who bash diesels have never driven one. Once you see the power and economy you don't go back to gasser. I'm never going to have an all electric car.
Most People that bash electric cars have never lived with one. Once you see the power and economy (and convenience) you don't go back to gas or diesel. I'm never going to have a petrol car... again.

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Old October 15th, 2018, 10:47   #79
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Most People that bash electric cars have never lived with one. Once you see the power and economy (and convenience) you don't go back to gas or diesel. I'm never going to have a petrol car... again.
So far, electric isn't economical for me. It would require up-front expense and include keeping my current diesel for long trips and power outages. But my choice can change as the market changes, loss of huge EV subsidies notwithstanding.

I'm sure after expensive repairs to our marginal electric grid and conversion to expensive renewable energy sources the electric rates will approach if not surpass that of "burning your own" fuel. The upcoming taxes on renewables to make up for the lack of funding from the road tax on fuel will also play a factor.

I'm hoping future tech will make this better.

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Old October 15th, 2018, 13:07   #80
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I used to give a co-worker a bad time about his Audi TT being the same platform as my Beetle. Also the co-worker who had a Boxster. When we went to lunch, I'd ask if he wanted to take my VW or his.
I don't know about the audi, but the boxster is definitely not a vw platform. Unless there are mid engine VWs running around that I'm unaware of.
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Old October 15th, 2018, 16:43   #81
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I remember there being a lot of head scratching when VWAG announced a diesel Porsche, but then we also scratched our heads when Porsche slapped their name on both a 4 door sedan and a couple of SUVs. Not really staying true to their roots!
Nobody has stayed true to their roots.
Lamborghini now sells an SUV.
Lots of automakers have strayed far from their roots in hopes to expand market share.
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I agree, almost as bad as VW slapping their name on watercooled FWD cars!! Sacrilege!!!
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When we went to lunch, I'd ask if he wanted to take my VW or his.
I love it!
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Apparently BMW agrees...

BMW exec commits to diesel, says electro-mobility discussions are “a little bit irrational”
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Lamborghini now sells an SUV.
Now? Lamborghini made an SUV over 30 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_LM002
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Nobody has stayed true to their roots.
Lamborghini now sells an SUV.
Yeah, that's awful. They should have stayed closer to their roots, like this beautiful 1951 Lamborginetta.
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Now? Lamborghini made an SUV over 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_LM002
Ahh, yes. That thing. I actually saw one for sale on craigslist about 5 years ago. Pretty cool to see a "Lamborghini" for sale so cheap.

While they did make an SUV ~30 years ago, I consider there to be a significant split (a new era) in Lamborghini's history when Audi/VW bought the company 20 years ago, and actually made Lamborghinis reliable, and pleasant to own and drive. The brand has really taken off since then.

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Yeah, that's awful. They should have stayed closer to their roots, like this beautiful 1951 Lamborginetta.
Somewhat hard to do when Lamborghini tractors went under and Mr. Lamborghini had to sell the business off.
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