<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wow, where do I start?Originally posted by Jeff McDaniel:
Bio diesel actually DECREASES fuel economy?? If this is true, you people know this and continue to BUY IT? What the hell is misfiring in your brains? I guess "Bio" is an alarm word to enviro-friendly cookoo-clocks who have neglected or abandoned any knowledge or research of scientific evidence and actually believe we have ANYTHING to do with the environment. Please, people, let's wake up. Enough is enough, you're buying fuel that BURNS FASTER! Does this sound dopey to anyone but me? The very concept that we could possibly destroy the environment anyway, even if we tried, is both hilarious and sad.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, you're the only one.Enough is enough, you're buying fuel that BURNS FASTER! Does this sound dopey to anyone but me?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Earth will get along just fine either way. The real question is whether or not you and I will still be on board. I hope you don't live close to sea level...The very concept that we could possibly destroy the environment anyway, even if we tried, is both hilarious and sad.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"BongoBrains" = A reference to the fact that I'm a Drummer/Percussionist, and work in the Traumatic Brain Injury Rehab field, (plus I don't take myself too seriously when choosing a user-name)Originally posted by wiltjk:
I agree with BongoBrains. BongoBrains???? Anyway...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Even not discussing environments concerns, where do you want your money to go?Originally posted by Jeff McDaniel:
Bio diesel actually DECREASES fuel economy?? If this is true, you people know this and continue to BUY IT? What the hell is misfiring in your brains? I guess "Bio" is an alarm word to enviro-friendly cookoo-clocks who have neglected or abandoned any knowledge or research of scientific evidence and actually believe we have ANYTHING to do with the environment. Please, people, let's wake up. Enough is enough, you're buying fuel that BURNS FASTER! Does this sound dopey to anyone but me? The very concept that we could possibly destroy the environment anyway, even if we tried, is both hilarious and sad.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It depends on one's perspective. Take the fuel economy of the fuel itself, that is, what it takes to produce the fuel. What is the cost to our society to produce one gallon of petroleum based diesel fuel, and what is the cost to our society to produce one gallon of biodiesel? The true cost of course, is not what we see at the pump. Even if you disregard geopolitical and environmental issues, just the economics of the fuel can favor biodiesel. Do a search here for "energy balance ratio", for some nice threads on how much energy it takes to get energy out of the earth. There are no free lunches in this land. Sustainability and continuity are intrinsic to civilized life, so thinking along those lines is certainly neither new nor wacky.Bio diesel actually DECREASES fuel economy?? If this is true, you people know this and continue to BUY IT?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Proof once again that Homo Consumptus is alive and well, let`s just hope this one isn`t breeding. And where else would we find this evolutionary phenomenon? Why, of course, the epicenter of evolutionary dead-ends, Texas.Originally posted by Jeff McDaniel:
Bio diesel actually DECREASES fuel economy?? If this is true, you people know this and continue to BUY IT? What the hell is misfiring in your brains? I guess "Bio" is an alarm word to enviro-friendly cookoo-clocks who have neglected or abandoned any knowledge or research of scientific evidence and actually believe we have ANYTHING to do with the environment. Please, people, let's wake up. Enough is enough, you're buying fuel that BURNS FASTER! Does this sound dopey to anyone but me? The very concept that we could possibly destroy the environment anyway, even if we tried, is both hilarious and sad.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Any respect or credibility that you might need to have meaningful dialog with rational people here, that`s all. We need relics like you Jeff, please stick around, you are invaluable in helping us make our points.... if I've been on this forum for one day or one decade, I'll "get away" with saying whatever I damn well please, and if not and I'm kicked off, what have I lost?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">been respectful and has not attacked me personally--something, by the way, that I have not done to anyone and do not feel I deserve
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">you people know this
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What the hell is misfiring in your brains?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">enviro-friendly cookoo-clocks who have neglected or abandoned any knowledge
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, I understand now, your statments are not attacking anyone specific, just all BioD supporters in general.this sound dopey
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jeff McDaniel:
Bio diesel actually DECREASES fuel economy?? If this is true, you people know this and continue to BUY IT? What the hell is misfiring in your brains? I guess "Bio" is an alarm word to enviro-friendly cookoo-clocks who have neglected or abandoned any knowledge or research of scientific evidence and actually believe we have ANYTHING to do with the environment. Please, people, let's wake up. Enough is enough, you're buying fuel that BURNS FASTER! Does this sound dopey to anyone but me? The very concept that we could possibly destroy the environment anyway, even if we tried, is both hilarious and sad.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah right.Dorado, I appreciate your response very much, as it has been the only one since my comment about the environment that has been respectful and has not attacked me personally--something, by the way, that I have not done to anyone and do not feel I deserve.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's actually not true. It may be true if we focus strictly on soybeans, but soy isn't even close to the most productive oil plant.Originally posted by Boundless:
Although biodiesel has many wonderful things going for it, the demand for diesel fuel is greater than the biodiesel that can be produced if all the arable land on the planet were used to produce biodiesel.