Slight Drivetrain Whine, Is This Normal?

PDJetta

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'04 Jetta GLS TDI Pumpe Duce Platinum Grey w/ Leather
Starting about a month ago I noticed a slight whirring/whine sound coming from the final drive portion of the drivetrain. Its "noticeable" and may be normal, I'm just not sure. Its a fairly faint sound, almost like the meshing of the gear teeth. Its odd that the first 65,000 miles of the car's life the sound was not there. I say the "final drive" because the tone of the noise varies directly with road speed, not the engine speed. If I shift gears from 5th to 4th, the tone is the same, although its quality is slightly different. I do think it is coming from the transaxle.

Its most noticeable when in 4th or 5th gear with a very slight loading of the engine. Push the accelerator slightly more, the sounds fades out, or let off the accelerator (engine over-run), the sound fades out too.

If abnormal wear is causing the sound, there are only two causes related to me I can think of:

1. I coast in neutral alot. Up to lights when I need to only slow gradually, coming up to turns and turn and put it in gear again, etc. I wonder if this in some way could damage the transaxle by preventing proper lubrication (slinging the oil inside) of the geartrain.

2. At 50,000 miles I changed the gear oil (with the same G052 gear oil) and only put 1.5 liters back in (that is all it would hold when I leveled the car, but I forgot to run the car in gear for a few minutes and recheck the level, per Bentley) and I wonder if the transaxle is a cup or two too low, but I reason even if slightly low, this should not cause damage.

Any thoughts? Anyone elese have this slight drone from their transaxle that I hear? Its almost a normal sound, but I've only noticed it recently.

Thanks.

--Nate
 

PDJetta

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Bump.

Anyone?

I think I read a TSB somewhere about a change in VW gear oil because of noisy transaxles.

I plan to recheck the oil level in about a month, just before I remove the transaxle to install a G60/VR-6 clutch (the stock one is slipping at 70,000 miles because of the RC 1).

--Nate
 

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I have the exact same whine. It only happens in 4th and 5th. Mine started whining at around 68k. I now have 84k and the whine hasnt changed, although it is still there. It only makes this noise when i am gently accelerating, and sometimes on the decel. I hardly coast in neutral though. I was actually getting online tonight to research this a bit. I dont know if it is normal either. I had the noisy dif (spyder gear droaning when turning) and did the TSB at 76k to fix that. This however did not change the final drive whine. 2004 Jetta.
 

PDJetta

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Wow, that's the sound exactly! I think my sound began at 65,000 or 66,000 miles. It appears to be just a normal meshing sound of the gear teeth, I think, and I guess began after the gears broke in. My take is that this noise is normal. I have heard similar sounds in other cars as well I thimk. What is odd is that one day I just noticed it and I know it was not present previously.

I did read up on the overhaul procedure for these transaxles and there are several shim adjustments and that if they are off a little, the transaxle can be "noisy" and my guess is that this is just a normal change in tolerances.

Thanks.

--Nate
 
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